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- Subject: [pct-l] [pct-l} Mountain Boogie Man Strikes Again
- From: reinholdmetzger at cox.net (Reinhold Metzger)
- Date: Sat Mar 4 18:41:30 2006
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> 1. RE: Shuttle Info (cmkudija@earthlink.net)
> 2. caffeine article (Robert Ellinwood)
> 3. Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry Date
> (David Spangler)
> 4. Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry Date
> (Steve Courtway)
> 5. Re: caffeine article (Siri Forsman-Sims)
> 6. Re: Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry Date
> (AsABat)
> 7. Re: Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry Date
> (dsaufley@sprynet.com)
> 8. Re: Re: Cholesterol (was, Caffiene) (Brian McLaughlin)
> 9. Re: Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry Date
> (Ken Powers)
> 10. repeated postings? (Robert Ellinwood)
> 11. Re: repeated postings? (Bill Frenette)
> 12. New Lone Pine Store (mustangtraveler@aol.com)
> 13. Re: Shuttle Info (Jeffrey Olson)
> 14. Re: Shuttle Info (Steve Courtway)
> 15. Re: Shuttle Info (Jeffrey Olson)
> 16. New Trail Angel (Dr. Patch O'Malley IV)
> 17. Late start (Jackie Harris)
> 18. re: CA section in March (Robert Logue)
> 19. altitude sickness (carol Whitehouse Bruno)
> 20. Mountain Boogie Man Strikes Again (Hiker97@aol.com)
> 21. RE: Mountain Boogie Man Strikes Whitney (AsABat)
> 22. Kennedy Meadows May 1 (Rick Alway)
> 23. Mystery Man of the PCT??? Bill Foster verses D.B.Cooper
> (Monte Dodge)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:04:35 -0800
> From: <cmkudija@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Shuttle Info
> To: <Ardprl@aol.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> See http://www.inyo3d.org/Frameset/crest.htm for the CREST bus route map,
> and http://www.cityconcierge.com/travel/tour_bus.shtml for additional info
&
> links. I've never ridden the CREST bus but see it (and the numerous
stops)
> in the Hwy 395 corridor frequently. The CREST route runs from Ridgecrest
> City Hall to Reno.
>
> Christine "Ceanothus" Kudija
> PCT partially '94
>
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> Never measure the height of a mountain until you have reached its top.
Then
> you will know how low it was.
> Dag
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>
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> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Ardprl@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:46 AM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Shuttle Info
>
> Does anyone know how to get a reliable ride from Lonepine to Mammoth to
> catch Yarts. This is a pre PCT voyage
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:29:50 -0500
> From: "Robert Ellinwood" <rellinwood@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] caffeine article
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> FWIW:
>
> In a stack of items to review before hiking this summer, I just found an
> article on Caffeine in National Geographic, Jan. 2005, pp.2-32. Since
there
> have been recent postings on caffeine and since I tend to boost afternoon
> hiking performance, with hard miles ahead, with some caffeine intake, I
> re-read the article and found:
>
> * "Extroverted people are less sensitive to caffeine's effects than
> introverts."
> * One MIT grad student mixes 50 mg of caffeine (1/4 of a Vivarin) in a
> bottle of Gaterade.
> * "Frequent small amounts of caffeine maintain mental alertness better
> than the classic morning jolt from a big cup of coffee."
> * "Military studies of subjects who hadn't slept for 48 hours showed
> that 600 mg of caffeine improved alertness and mood as much as 25 mg of
> amphetamine."
> * "We use caffeine to make up for a sleep deficit that is largely the
> result of using caffeine." (Charles Czeisler, neuroscientist and sleep
> expert, Harvard medical School)
> * "Studies at the University of Connecticut's Human Performance
> Laboratory suggest that caffeine does *not* cause dehydration in moderate
> amounts. Contrary to popular belief, our bodies retain as much fluid from
> caffeinated liquids as they do from water."
> * "It is also a diuretic, though recent studies show that it is not
> dehydrating in moderate amounts, even in athletes, as has been widely
> believed. Caffeinated drinks do increase urine output, but only about the
> same as water. Caffeine boosts blood pressure, too, but this effect is
> temporary."
>
> I guess my surprise was at the last 2 points about dehydration. That's
good
> news. My doctors have preached to the contrary for years.
>
> Dr Bob
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:42:48 -0800
> From: "David Spangler" <davidspangler@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry
> Date
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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> Go for it--we entered the Sierra's before Ray Day (June 15) last year and
we
> weren't the first thru-hikers to enter the Sierra's. There can't be much
> more snow then there was last year.
>
> Just beware of the sun-cups!!
>
> Good luck class of '06 and see you in Oregon--maybe.
>
> David (of Super Dave, Kelly and Mortal Dave fame)
>
> PS For the record I gotta say I agree with Mountain Goat 145 thru-hikers
> completing last year seems like a whole lot from I saw and heard!!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:57:50 -0800
> From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry
> Date
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> Has anyone onlist crossed mather pass SOBO mid June/avg. snow ?
>
> 2 years ago I turned back at Bishop pass after entering over Paiute Pass
> June 18, daunted by the idea of climbing the golden staircase area in alot
> of snow......
>
> NOBOs just cruise right on down the slopes right ?, what is the SOBO
> sitch-ation there ?
>
> s.c.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:59:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Siri Forsman-Sims" <forsm001@csusm.edu>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] caffeine article
> To: "Robert Ellinwood" <rellinwood@worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <1078.68.6.228.42.1141412392.squirrel@coyote.csusm.edu>
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> I also thought caffeine (or is it just coffee) causes your bladder to
> spasm, encouraging frequent "pit stops" - my least favorite aspect of
> coffee.
>
> Siri
>
> > * "It is also a diuretic, though recent studies show that it is not
> > dehydrating in moderate amounts, even in athletes, as has been widely
> > believed. Caffeinated drinks do increase urine output, but only about
the
> > same as water. Caffeine boosts blood pressure, too, but this effect is
> > temporary."
> >
> > I guess my surprise was at the last 2 points about dehydration. That's
> > good
> > news. My doctors have preached to the contrary for years.
> >
> > Dr Bob
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:05:31 -0800
> From: AsABat <asabat@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra
> Entry Date
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> I did Mather Pass sobo the last week of July 1998, which was a very high
snow year. The Golden Staircase was free of snow (it gets a lot of afternoon
sun), but from Upper Palisade Lake to Mather was solid snow and ice. Two of
us with instep crampons and ice axes stomped steps for the others without.
The cornice had reduced to a vertical wall that we lowered the packs over by
rope.
>
> Pictures at
> http://www.geocities.com/bsa651/news/1998/newjul98pic.htm
>
> Another problem was high stream crossings. Middle Fork of the Kings was
not crossable at the Taboose Pass Trail junction. Fortunately, we knew this
and stayed on the east side crosscountry rather than follow the trail.
>
> The ranger at the bottom of the Bishop Pass Trail told us he had only seen
30 hikers so far that summer (on the Muir Trail!) and no one else had gone
south.
>
> AsABat
>
> > Has anyone onlist crossed mather pass SOBO mid June/avg. snow ?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:23:51 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> From: dsaufley@sprynet.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra
> Entry Date
> To: AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
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> This post is making me very glad I'm taking Mtnned's course.
>
> L-Rod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: AsABat <asabat@cox.net>
> >Sent: Mar 3, 2006 11:05 AM
> >To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> >Subject: Re: [pct-l] Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry
Date
> >
> >I did Mather Pass sobo the last week of July 1998, which was a very high
snow year. The Golden Staircase was free of snow (it gets a lot of afternoon
sun), but from Upper Palisade Lake to Mather was solid snow and ice. Two of
us with instep crampons and ice axes stomped steps for the others without.
The cornice had reduced to a vertical wall that we lowered the packs over by
rope.
> >
> >Pictures at
> >http://www.geocities.com/bsa651/news/1998/newjul98pic.htm
> >
> >Another problem was high stream crossings. Middle Fork of the Kings was
not crossable at the Taboose Pass Trail junction. Fortunately, we knew this
and stayed on the east side crosscountry rather than follow the trail.
> >
> >The ranger at the bottom of the Bishop Pass Trail told us he had only
seen 30 hikers so far that summer (on the Muir Trail!) and no one else had
gone south.
> >
> >AsABat
> >
> >> Has anyone onlist crossed mather pass SOBO mid June/avg. snow ?
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:30:32 -0800
> From: Brian McLaughlin <bmclaughlin@bigplanet.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Re: Cholesterol (was, Caffiene)
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <000501c63ef8$f1fa92e0$0d1f0243@brian>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> > Just for the record...cholesterol is only found in foods of animal
> > origin (meat, eggs, dairy). Coconut oil is high in saturated fat and
> > may be undesirable for that reason (any fat that's solid at room
> > temperature is questionable), but it has no cholesterol. Actually
> > the typical hiker's diet tends to be low in fats (while on the trail,
> > I mean!), so that might make it more desirable in this case, rather
> > than less so.
>
> Shelley is correct about cholesterol and saturated fats. She is
> on the mark about the desirability of fats when thru-hiking, too.
> The only type of fat you should shun at all times would be the
> trans-fats.
>
> A good way to think of a thru-hike is that your body will be
> expected to walk the distance of a marathon run... except
> with FAR more elevation gain and loss...while carrying a load
> often 30 lbs or more...after sleeping all night on the ground...
> at high elevation.
>
> Then, the next day, you do it all over again! And the next day,
> too! And the day after that! With only a few days of rest for
> about four months.
>
> Under such extreme exertions, your body will crave every
> calorie, and nutrient, it can get. Excluding water weight and
> indigestible fiber (which are present in just about every food
> to some degree) one gram of pure protein or one gram of
> pure carbohydrate yields 4 calories. One gram of pure fat
> yields 9 calories. Obviously, fat is worth its weight when you
> may be trying to eat (and carry!!) 5000 or 6000 calories/day!
>
> A good rule of thumb is always shoot for food that averages
> 4 calories per gram or higher (about 110 cal. per ounce or
> more). You can figure this out from the Nutrition labels on
> the package. Since water and fiber will force down the average
> cal/gram, this means you must make up the difference with fat.
>
> I hope this bit of rudimentary info will help someone on the
> list who is still learning the ropes.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:09:23 -0800
> From: "Ken Powers" <kdpo@gottawalk.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra
> Entry Date
> To: <AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <003801c63f06$bfe9ebd0$6601a8c0@GottaWalk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> For a frame of reference - We hiked the John Muir Trail starting on Labor
> Day weekend in 1998 and 1999. The difference was dramatic. In 1998 we had
> spring flowers the whole distance of the JMT with most streams still
running
> quite full (not dangerous). We met the first group of PCT thruhikers at
> Bubbs Creek on July 4th, 1998. In 1999 the grass was brown and no flowers.
> Many of the smaller streams were dry or nearly so. I think all the
pictures
> on my webpage (http://www.gottawalk.com/jmt/JMT.htm ) are from 1999. Then
we
> hiked the PCT in 2000 NOBO. We entered the sierra on June 10 and found
snow
> everywhere (http://www.gottawalk.com/pct/high_sierra.htm). We still had
> snowbridges over many streams and the rivers were frightening and/or over
> their banks.
>
> Ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AsABat" <asabat@cox.net>
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Strider's March 1 Irresponsible First Sierra Entry
Date
>
>
> I did Mather Pass sobo the last week of July 1998, which was a very high
> snow year. The Golden Staircase was free of snow (it gets a lot of
afternoon
> sun), but from Upper Palisade Lake to Mather was solid snow and ice. Two
of
> us with instep crampons and ice axes stomped steps for the others without.
> The cornice had reduced to a vertical wall that we lowered the packs over
by
> rope.
>
> Pictures at
> http://www.geocities.com/bsa651/news/1998/newjul98pic.htm
>
> Another problem was high stream crossings. Middle Fork of the Kings was
not
> crossable at the Taboose Pass Trail junction. Fortunately, we knew this
and
> stayed on the east side crosscountry rather than follow the trail.
>
> The ranger at the bottom of the Bishop Pass Trail told us he had only seen
> 30 hikers so far that summer (on the Muir Trail!) and no one else had gone
> south.
>
> AsABat
>
> > Has anyone onlist crossed mather pass SOBO mid June/avg. snow ?
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:23:58 -0500
> From: "Robert Ellinwood" <rellinwood@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] repeated postings?
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> Are others experiencing receiving postings a second time, several days
> later? I feel embarrassed when something I've posted shows up again, 1-3
> days later, as if I were re-posting for some reason!
>
> Also, I've noticed that for the last several months, not before, I have
> often received the response to a posted question before the actual initial
> post/question appears... sometimes WAY before.
>
> Any others experiencing this?? No big deal, except that for years it
never
> seemed to happen.
>
> Dr Bob
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:38:43 -0800
> From: "Bill Frenette" <tahoe.cat@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] repeated postings?
> To: "Robert Ellinwood" <rellinwood@worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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>
> yes this has been happening Ground Pounder Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Ellinwood" <rellinwood@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:23 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] repeated postings?
>
>
> Are others experiencing receiving postings a second time, several days
> later? I feel embarrassed when something I've posted shows up again, 1-3
> days later, as if I were re-posting for some reason!
>
> Also, I've noticed that for the last several months, not before, I have
> often received the response to a posted question before the actual initial
> post/question appears... sometimes WAY before.
>
> Any others experiencing this?? No big deal, except that for years it
never
> seemed to happen.
>
> Dr Bob
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:03:14 -0500
> From: mustangtraveler@aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] New Lone Pine Store
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Cc: hochhut@web.de
> Message-ID: <8C80D2DC94B56E8-10F8-153CA@MBLK-R10.sysops.aol.com>
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>
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been waiting to make a formal introduction to the PCT boards
> but I was waiting until we get the web site finished, but I will put
> this out quickly just to get on the map.
>
> Kastle Lund (known in the world as a climber) has opened a Sierra
> Adventure Essentials shop in Lone Pine CA. We here at the store are
> trying to be as ready as possible for the PCT and other hiker's needs.
>
> My name is Jont (as in jaunting through the woods) and am doing my
> best to purchase items that Yogi and other more experienced travelers
> seem to reference. This means that your "MUST HAVE" lists are welcome.
> The budget is small as we are just getting started but I will do my
> best. So far I should have many of the basics, (Rita this includes your
> maps, "NO REI RUNS if you don't want to."
>
> The basic site is currently up so you can get some feel for us. I
> promise there will be more to come.
>
> So with this said, PLEASE put us on your maps and come in and say HI!
>
> At this point I should be at the kick off along with Pigmy and a
> couple of others I'm willing to pick up on the way down, so should see
> many of you soon!
>
> We, in the western themed town of Lone Pine, look forward to meeting
> your needs and offering you a place to hang out. Community goes a long
> way!
>
>
> Jont
> www.sierraelevation.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:39:30 -0700
> From: Jeffrey Olson <jolson@olc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shuttle Info
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <4408D3B2.2030805@olc.edu>
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>
> I rode the CREST this summer from Bishop to the road that heads to
> Kennedy Meadows. I asked the bus driver to make this unscheduled stop
> and he was very happy to oblige. I did tip him $5 in thanks...
>
> Jeff Olson
> Martin, SD
>
> cmkudija@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >See http://www.inyo3d.org/Frameset/crest.htm for the CREST bus route map,
> >and http://www.cityconcierge.com/travel/tour_bus.shtml for additional
info &
> >links. I've never ridden the CREST bus but see it (and the numerous
stops)
> >in the Hwy 395 corridor frequently. The CREST route runs from Ridgecrest
> >City Hall to Reno.
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:46:24 -0800
> From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shuttle Info
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <056f01c63f1c$b01cf600$8300a8c0@stn128>
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> reply-type=response
>
> how long did you wait for a ride ? I assume you were hitching.....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffrey Olson" <jolson@olc.edu>
> Cc: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shuttle Info
>
>
> >I rode the CREST this summer from Bishop to the road that heads to
Kennedy
> >Meadows. I asked the bus driver to make this unscheduled stop and he was
> >very happy to oblige. I did tip him $5 in thanks...
> > Jeff Olson
> > Martin, SD
> >
> > cmkudija@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> >>See http://www.inyo3d.org/Frameset/crest.htm for the CREST bus route
map,
> >>and http://www.cityconcierge.com/travel/tour_bus.shtml for additional
info
> >>&
> >>links. I've never ridden the CREST bus but see it (and the numerous
> >>stops)
> >>in the Hwy 395 corridor frequently. The CREST route runs from
Ridgecrest
> >>City Hall to Reno.
> >>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:00:14 -0700
> From: Jeffrey Olson <jolson@olc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shuttle Info
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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> I was hitching. It was hot and windy and no cars came by for 15
> minutes, and then one lone battered Datsun pickup. Another 15 minutes
> and a pickup from a guy that lived up there who was in charge of the
> telephone system picked me up. This was around noon, and there was not
> much traffic. However, I got the feeling from the telephone guy that
> many of the people living up there will pick up backpackers.
>
> Jeff...
>
> Steve Courtway wrote:
>
> > how long did you wait for a ride ? I assume you were hitching.....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Olson" <jolson@olc.edu>
> > Cc: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shuttle Info
> >
> >
> >> I rode the CREST this summer from Bishop to the road that heads to
> >> Kennedy Meadows. I asked the bus driver to make this unscheduled
> >> stop and he was very happy to oblige. I did tip him $5 in thanks...
> >> Jeff Olson
> >> Martin, SD
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:44:40 -0800
> From: "Dr. Patch O'Malley IV" <patch@aidshike.org>
> Subject: [pct-l] New Trail Angel
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> My dad lives in Tecate, Mexico, which is a border town about 20 minutes
> or so from the terminus (as opposed to San Diego, which is closer to an
> hour). It's an awfully convenient location for us thru-hikers, so I just
> asked if he'd be willing to be the next trail angel. He said yes.
>
> Staying at his little casita would mean the following: a hiker room,
> space to spread out, a taste of Mexico, some good food and beer, Tequila
> if that's your direction, and a ride to the terminus in the morning.
>
> He and I, we're not really sure if this is a service that people would
> be interested in, but if so, we can make it happen.
>
> -Dr. Patch O'Malley IV
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 20:46:15 -0800
> From: "Jackie Harris" <jrharris626@MSN.COM>
> Subject: [pct-l] Late start
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> Is anyone planning to leave Campo in June? Not looking for a partner; just
wondering; I'm thinking about leaving the border about the third week of
June. Also, is this a bad year to hike southern Cal. in, mostly, July.
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 00:47:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Robert Logue <nosirreeb@yahoo.com>
> Subject: re: [pct-l] CA section in March
> To: "pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <20060304084722.75448.qmail@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> >Can anyone recommend, or is there a section, that would be hikable
> >sans snow the end of March that would be about 50 miles, plus or minus
> >15, that also has public transportation access from either end?
>
> Here's one possible for you: Scissors Crossing to/from Lake Morena,
about 58 miles. There might be a little snow at Mt Laguna if a storm comes
through, but not likely to be anything that can't be easily handled.
>
> Bus route 891 runs between El Cajon Transit Center and Scissors Crossing
on Fridays only.
> http://www.sdcommute.com/Rider_Information/routes/PDFs/Routes/891892.pdf
>
> Bus route 894 (Mon thru Fri) or 888 (Mon & Fri only) between El Cajon
and Lake Morena.
> http://www.sdcommute.com/Rider_Information/routes/PDFs/Routes/894.pdf
> http://www.sdcommute.com/Rider_Information/routes/PDFs/Routes/888.pdf
>
> Take the Orange Line trolley between San Diego and El Cajon.
> http://www.sdcommute.com/Rider_Information/trolley/trolleyMap.asp
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 08:11:57 -0700
> From: "carol Whitehouse Bruno" <carolbruno@cox.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] altitude sickness
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> To all the savants out there:
>
> What is the deal with altitude adjustment? Last weekend my husband and I
went to Flagstaff and hiked Humphrey's (12,000+) mountain and I had a real
hard time with the altitude. I was wondering, if I hiked in Flag once a
week, would that help aclimate for the higher altitudes on the JMT this
summer; OR, is that impossible to do on a once a week basis? How much time
is required for acimation? Someone told me that it takes as long as a month
at the higher elevations. Compared to other parts of the PCT, my mileage on
the JMT is almost cut in half. Any 'words of wisdom' for us low desert and
sea level folks? Or, do I just have to downshift in he higher
altitudes?---bummer!
>
> Can'tquit
>
>
> ------------------------------
> YOU CAN DO IT SWITCHBACK. I know that I have on more than one
occasion gone from Whitney Portal, starting at sunrise, to the top of
Whitney and down to somewhere between Crabtree and Wallace Creek before
sunset.
Besides there is no mountain boogey man on Mt. Whitney. I stayed
overnight on top of Whitney more than once. But if you are worried about
the mountain boogey man, sleep in the hut and close the door. What you need
to be more concerned about is some foxy young female hiker deciding to stay
overnight in the hut the same night you are staying in the hut. Back in
2004 I was staying in the hut when Catra Corbett, a foxy, young trail runner
from San Francisco, barged into the hut. She was doing her JMT yo-yo.
Unfortunately, she could not stay and I was left sleepless, wondering what
if she would have stayed.
Switchback, you owe it to yourself to see the sunset and sunrise from
the top of Mt. Whitney at least once in your lifetime. It's an amazing
spectacle that you will forever remember.
Some people may say, why go through the trouble, you can see it from the
trail. But, believe me, it's not the same. From the top, you have the
360 degree panoramic view. In my opinion, the most rewarding way is to get
to the top before sunset and stay on top overnight. This way you will
witness the sunset and sunrise back to back from the top of Whitney.
Believe me, you will be forever hooked.
If you are a flatlander like I am, you may want to camp at Whitney
Portal the night before you start hiking and go at a slow pace to lessen the
possibility of altitude sickness.
JMT Reinhold
Your forever hooked trail companion and JMT scoundrel
> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:27:25 EST
> From: Hiker97@aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Mountain Boogie Man Strikes Again
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Cc: laura629@hotmail.com, carolbruno@cox.net,
> Rattlesnake5648@Yahoo.com
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> I was thinking about this 24-hour Mt. Whitney sunrise hike. I think I
could
> leave Whitney Portal at noon and hiked to Trail Camp. That is 5 miles
str
> aight up the tail and let's say I get there at 6 P.M. Then I could eat
and take
> a Meritorious Combat Nap. Of course, I am taking my O2 bottle too.
>
> I could get up at 11 P.M. and head up the 98-switchbacks to Trail Crest
and
> then over to the top. May be sunrise would be around 5:30 A.M. or
something
> like that. Should be no problem. Then all I have to do is be back at
the
> Whitney Portal parking lot by noon. I know from experience it takes me
around
> 5 hours to make it from the top to the parking lot. Of course I would
want
> to go up on a full-moon cloudless night with my headlamp.
>
> VICTORY! Another mountaineering milestone completed.
>
> I could have stayed on top several years ago at the end of a solo High
> Sierra Trail (I consider this the premiere hiking trail in the world)
hike from
> Giant Forest. When I got to the top there were several people there
resting
> and taking pictures. It was later in the afternoon. Soon everyone had
left
> and I was alone. I had planned on camping at the top to see the sunrise
the
> next morning.
>
> Presently, I got scared being alone on top, so I bailed and headed down
the
> trail as fast as I could go. The Mountain Boogie Man got to me at 14,496
> feet. May be the Lone Pine hot tub at the Dow Motel and dinner at the
> Merry-Go-Round restaurant after the High Sierra Trail hike had some
influences too.
> But I think it was mainly being chicken.
>
> Hey!!! I am not afraid of being a chicken.
>
> Your hiking buddy, Switchback
> Trail Rascal & Camp Scaredie Cat
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:43:05 -0800
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Mountain Boogie Man Strikes Whitney
> To: <Hiker97@aol.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <000801c63fa2$548bd5a0$6401010a@TUSER>
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>
> Having done Whitney in a day, a big consideration is exhaustion - not from
> hiking, but from lack of sleep. The 5 hour nap just eats into your 24 hour
> period. Why not start from the Portal at 11:30 pm and hike until sunrise?
> Even if not at the top, you'd enjoy the mountains being lit up on your way
> up the 97 switchbacks. Bring an alcohol stove for some hot soup at the
peak,
> then down for burgers.
>
> I spent the night on top alone in 1978. It was a wonderful, cold, and
> sleepless experience. But I didn't have an O2 bottle!
>
> Remember you need an overnight permit if you want to camp on the Trail. By
> leaving at 11:30 pm you enter the wilderness at midnight, so a day permit
is
> enough.
>
> AsABat
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:54:13 -0800
> From: "Rick Alway" <osprey48@msn.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Kennedy Meadows May 1
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV234975FB4E4153A0A50C94CBEB0@phx.gbl>
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> Does anyone have any experience getting out of Kennedy Meadows in late
April or early May? I would like to leave a car there, get a ride out, then
get to Agua Dulce in order to hike from Agua Dulce to Kennedy Meadows. Also,
any suggestions for public transit from 395 to Agua Dulce?
>
> -Osprey
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 08:57:23 -0800
> From: "Monte Dodge" <montedodge@msn.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Mystery Man of the PCT??? Bill Foster verses
> D.B.Cooper
> To: "pct-l" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Cc: David & Elizabeth Odell <eodell@ptialaska.net>, Mtnned
> <Mtnned@aol.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY101-DAV16865BCFBC3F51B6EB6AF9D5EB0@phx.gbl>
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>
> http://www.pbase.com/image/56783249<http://www.pbase.com/image/56783249>
In 1977 , Myself and several others hiking the trail that year met a man
named Bill Foster who was walking S.B. when I met him in Oregon Late Aug. He
at the time claimed to be the second ever to Hike the PCT ( after Eric
Ryback) and said he was the first to hike the trail both North and South
Bound. He hiked in older garb than any of us back then and all was hiking in
black dress shoes, which he said he liked. I know both Carl and Greg bumped
into this guy farther up the trail. Anyone else know of here of this guy as
well. I use to think, well this could be what D.B. Cooper does with his free
time these days. Good photo of ( I will call, Wild Bill) on this link. He
was a Clean Gene for a thru-hiker who was well shaven when we all looked
like Manson family members. He seemed to have good knowledge of the trail
for back then.. Where is he now??? Mister Foster /Cooper has never
contacted any one with abo
> ut his achievements.... Are Bill Foster and D.B. Cooper the same?????
Maybe some of the pre-77 hikers have hear of him. The PCT is still a small
world....
>
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