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- Subject: [pct-l] Phone Connection at the I-10
- From: jdroberts at vd-p.com (Dan Roberts)
- Date: Tue Apr 19 13:20:59 2005
The nearest phone connection at the I-10 crossing to my knowledge would
be the Morongo Resort and Hotel aproximately 3 miles due west of the
north side of the I-10 freeway. You can see it from the crossing.
Dan
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Today's Topics:
1. Palm Springs meeting spot? (Julie Donnelly)
2. Fwd: PocketMail Journal Service (Gary Wright)
3. thru-hiking with dogs. (enyapjr@adelphia.net)
4. Fishin' the JMT (Richard Woods)
5. Re: Fishin' the JMT (Jeffrey J. Olson)
6. Re: Trolls (was: thru-hiking with dogs) (Eric Yakel)
7. Re: thru-hiking with dogs. (Wayne Kraft)
8. Palm Springs visit--consider the tram (Connie Davis)
9. Donner to Castella suggestions? (Kim Owen)
10. Trolls, flames, etc. (Paul Magnanti)
11. GPS, is it worth it? (Erica Martin)
12. Re: Trolls, flames, etc. (JDRows)
13. Re: thru-hiking with dogs. (Steve Courtway)
14. GPS, is it worth it? (Scott Parks)
15. Re: Fishin' the JMT (Steve Courtway)
16. Re: GPS, is it worth it? (Peter Dascalos)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:19:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Julie Donnelly <jddonnelly@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Palm Springs meeting spot?
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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My husband Kevin and I are starting the trail in a little over a week
and are planning on spending a couple of days with family in Palm
Springs along the way. I'm just wondering about meeting logistics...does
anyone know if there's a pay phone close to where the PCT crosses the
I-10? (my map shows some town-like features (West Palm Springs?), but
not sure if that means a place to make a phone call) Is there a spot not
too far from the trail that we can call them from?
Thanks,
Julie
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:45:18 -0400
From: Gary Wright <radar@pocketmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Fwd: PocketMail Journal Service
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This might be of interest to folks who are looking into
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 7:33:06 -0400
From: <enyapjr@adelphia.net>
Subject: [pct-l] thru-hiking with dogs.
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I hope this doesn't aggravate things further, but I really am curious
and
also wish to be educated on the subject (as I am sure many others on the
list are, too)... Even though I am fully aware of the Americans with
Disabilities Act (ADA) as it pertains to the business world, I was
unaware
that 'service' animals have 'carte blanche' anywhere, anytime, no matter
what
(I have been aware of some exceptions since I raised/trained guide dogs
for
the blind for ten years back in the 1960's).
Do you always have your dog on leash while in National Parks or other
'restricted' areas? What 'service' does your dog provide for you?
Carolyn Eddy (Sweet Goat Mama) said, "Dave is right, any dog can be a
service dog and no further proof than declaration of such is required."
If that is correct, then ALL dogs could theoretically be declared
'service'
dogs by their owners and taken ANYWHERE they choose... Yet, would it
be legal, ethical, and moral for me to declare my dog a 'service' dog
even
though I do not claim any disabilities (Well, except for AGE now maybe!
And,
according to my kids, my mental 'weirdness'!!)? Wouldn't some sort of
proof
of one's said disability (if not readily apparent) have to be shown
eventually,
even if the 'service' animal doesn't need any certification?
I would think that one would be better off to, at least, carry a copy of
the ordinance (as Carolyn Eddy does) to help enlighten those not in the
know.
And to simplify it even further, I would also carry a copy of some sort
of
document supporting said disability if it isn't readily apparent. You
could
even reduce them onto a single small paper or card... Being cooperative
and
congenial would certainly make for a much better 'first impression'...
As for dogs on the trail in general... I don't personally feel they
belong on
many portions, if not most, of the PCT. I wouldn't take mine (a German
Shepard)
on a thru-hike... it's just too far a distance over too long a time.
Yes, I would
miss him - and I might even arrange to have him on trail with me a small
part of
the way... but definitely not in southern California nor in the
national park
areas or other 'restricted' jurisdictions... maybe far northern
California and
southern Oregon would be a possibility...
One more point, for the class of 2005 and those to follow... Every
thru-hiker is
an ambassador for the entire thru-hiking community... So, be patient
and
courteous to all the NONthru-hikers and especially to the NONhikers in
the trail
towns as you answer the same questions over and over, and over, and over
again! Help spread your enthusiasm and love of the trail to all you
meet.
Thank you.
Happy trails!!!
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:23:49 -0700
From: Richard Woods <wpsnotebook@charter.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Fishin' the JMT
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EEE HAAAHHH!
Thousand Islands Lake was great. Got there in early July, late, late
afternoon with gear maintenance to attend to, so the two I caught in
last light in about 15 minutes were still skinny from the winter, but
lots of fun. At the outflow under the dam.
I sometimes pack a short flyrod, glad I did for that trip. Lots of
little lakes between Devil's Postpile and Tuolumne, not to mention
Lyell Fork - fly fishing heaven. All I needed was a regular license,
with the normal limits. Farther south, Duck Lake looked good, although
I didn't stop. Johnston Lake is a few miles north of the Monument,
small and might have been active, but I passed through at the wrong
time of day for fishing, right time of day to become a moving mosquito
buffet. Shadow Lake is deep in a valley, fairly wooded and steep -
might be spin-casting territory unless you're really good with a flyrod
roll cast. Garnet Lake is also pretty, but Thousand Island has it all.
I could happily spend weeks looking for lunkers there.
Rick
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:43:57 -0600
From: "Jeffrey J. Olson" <jjolson@uwyo.edu>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fishin' the JMT
Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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On a cross country hike west of the John Muir trail we stopped late in
the afternoon at the west end of Thousand Island Lake at what looked
like the main inlet. As we lounged, a fellow came down off the mountain
and started casting his fly rod. This was about six, a couple hours
before dark.
It seemed he caught a fish with every cast. He stopped after ten
minutes or so, with five 12" - 15" trout. He said he did this every
evening and morning, that he, his wife, and his four year old child were
spending the summer above the lake. He said not many people made it to
that end of the lake.
He did't really want to talk and after gutting the fish headed back up
to his family...
Jeff Olson
Laramie WY
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:46:22 -0700
From: "Eric Yakel" <eyakel@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trolls (was: thru-hiking with dogs)
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>, "PCT-L Admin"
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Thanks for the education. I just wonder how the trolls in the Lord of
the Rings would feel about that. E.Y.
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trolls (was: thru-hiking with dogs)
> At 09:04 PM 4/18/05, dsaufley@sprynet.com wrote:
> >Well, I have to thank Brick Robbins for educating me, so it's my turn
to
> >pass it on.
>
>
> Some guidelines
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> contributing to a civil discussion, where the message as a whole lacks
any
> serious content, where the message is clearly intended to be
incendiary or
> disruptive, or where the poster is obviously arguing or debating in
bad
faith.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 06:59:35 -0700
From: "Wayne Kraft" <waynekraft@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] thru-hiking with dogs.
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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The folks on this list are generally the most well-informed, helpful and
gracious on-line group I have ever encountered, but I sense a need for
education on the topic of Americans With Disabilities Act and Service
Dogs.
This is not a subject upon which the general public seems to have a lot
of
information. I know it has come as a bit of a surprise to some folks
that
they could not simply tell me to quit my job and go live under a bridge
when
I lost my hearing, so this is a bit personal to me. I have a Golden
Retriever who is helpful to me on the trail, but I don't take my dog on
long
distance hikes because he's not suited to the endeavor, not because
government regulations prohibit it. They clearly do not. NPS is aware
of
this issue and, if Dave takes a Service Dog in a National Park, he won't
be
harassed by park employees. Dave will have a lot less trouble, however,
if
he contacts NPS about his plan to thru-hike national parks with his
service
dog before he arrives in the park. Common sense will prevail. If his
dog
attacks other park visitors or chases wildlife, he'll be kicked out for
that, not because he didn't have the right "certficate."
If you want to know more about this topic I suggest you first read
USDOJ's
Q and A section:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/animal.htm
The Q & A is designed for private entitities, but the requirements for
National Parks are the same.
Read this Memorandum of Understanding (I apologize for the quality of
the
cut and paste, but I don't have time to edit the document and some of
the
spaces between words have disappeared) for information on how the NPS is
implementing the ADA:
September 5, 2002MemorandumTo: Associate Directors, Regional Directors
and
SuperintendentsFrom: Director /s/ Fran P. MainellaSubject: Use of
Service
Animals by Persons with Disabilities in theNational Park SystemThe
purpose
of this memorandum is to provide updated informationregarding the use of
service animals by persons with disabilities inthe National Park System;
to
inform you of the intent to revise ourcurrent regulations regarding
their
use; and to provide interimguidance on what we as an agency must do in
order
to comply withDepartment of Justice (DOJ) guidelines and regulations and
Section 504of the Rehabilitation Act. This information will be
incorporated
intoDirector's Order #42 when it is updated.BackgroundService animals
for
persons with disabilities have traditionally beenunderstood to be guide
dogs
for blind individuals and hearingassistance dogs for persons with
hearing
impairments. Because theseanimals provide service for persons with
disabilities, they are notconsidered to be pets and, consequently, are
not
regulated as pets.Accordingly, they have been allowed to go into areas
where
pets aretraditionally prohibited. National Park Service (NPS)
regulationscodified at 36 CFR 2.15 currently recognize that "guide dogs
for
theBlind" and "signal dogs for persons with hearing impairments"are
exempt
from other prohibitions on pets.In 1990, with the passage of the
Americans
with Disabilities Act(ADA), DOJ expanded the concept of service animals
to
include thoseproviding a service for individuals with other
disabilities.
Serviceanimals are defined in 28 CFR 36.104 as, "any guide dog, signal
dog,or other animal individually trained to do work or perform tasks
forthe
benefit of an individual with a disability, including, but notlimited
to,
guiding individuals with impaired vision, alertingindividuals with
impaired
hearing to intruders or sounds, providingminimal protection or rescue
work,
pulling a wheelchair, or fetchingdropped items." Section 36.302 states
that
entities, "shallmodify policies, practices, or procedures to permit the
use
of aservice animal by an individual with a disability."Section 36.104
also
defines an individual with a disability as anindividual with a physical
or
mental impairment that substantiallylimits one or more of the major life
activities of caring for one'sself, performing manual tasks, walking,
seeing, hearing, speaking,breathing, learning, and working.Over the past
several months a number of parks have received requestsfrom the public
to
use service animals and the parks have raisedquestions about what types
of
service animals must be allowed. Therehas been some confusion for the
parks
because our current regulationsrecognize only guide dogs for individuals
with visual impairments andsignal dogs for those with hearing
impairments.
There have also beensome increased concerns voiced regarding the
potential
threat towildlife management with the allowance of service animals into
areaswhere pets are prohibited.NPS PositionAfter careful review of the
issues related to the use of serviceanimals in the national parks, and
based
on the advice provided by theSolicitor's Office, we conclude that we are
legally required bySection 504 of the Rehabilitation Act to allow all
types
of serviceanimals into the parks. The NPS will revise the regulations to
adopta broader interpretation of what a service animal is, and
whereservice
animals should be allowed. The NPS will use the samedefinition of
service
animal currently found in DOJ regulations (28CFR36.104). Service animals
will not be considered pets and, ingeneral, when accompanying a person
with
a disability (as defined byFederal law and DOJ regulations), must be
allowed
wherever visitors oremployees are allowed.Due to the concern for
wildlife
management issues, the regulation willallow superintendents to close an
area
to the use of service animalsif it is determined that the service animal
poses a direct threat tothe health or safety of people or wildlife. The
regulation will alsostate that, in determining whether a service animal
poses a directthreat, the superintendent must make an individualized
assessmentbased on current scientific knowledge or on the best
availableobjective evidence to ascertain the nature, duration and
severity
ofthe risk and the probability that the potential threat will
actuallyoccur;
and provide an explanation why less restrictive measures willnot
suffice. We
expect to have the proposed rule published in theFederal Register for
public
review and comment by fall of this year.Interim GuidanceBecause it will
take
some time for the new regulation to become final,we are using this
memorandum to provide guidance on what we need to doimmediately in order
to
comply with the ADA, DOJ guidelines andregulations, and Section 504 of
the
Rehabilitation Act.We have been advised by legal counsel that Congress
has
stated thattheir intent is that the coverage of the ADA, (which covers
State
andlocal governments and private entities) and Section 504 (which
coversFederal agencies) should be essentially the same. The
Department'sregulations implementing and interpreting Section 504 are
found
at 43CRF 17. Consequently, our current regulation (36 CFR 2.15),
whichrecognizes only guide dogs for the blind and signal dogs for
thehearing
impaired, is unenforceable against persons with disabilitieswho rely
upon
service animals for other purposes. Therefore, all parkunits must
immediately expand the definition of service animals to beconsistent
with
the DOJ definition and allow all service animalsaccompanying persons
with
disabilities the same privileges currentlyprovided to guide dogs and
hearing
assistance dogs.Some park staff have raised questions regarding how they
can
beassured that the individual with a service animal is a qualifiedperson
with a disability and that the animal is indeed providing aservice
because
of that disability. According to DOJ guidance, inmost instances we
cannot
require individuals to show proof ofdisability nor to show official
certification for their serviceanimal. Some, but not all, service
animals
wear special collars andharnesses. Some, but not all, are licensed or
certified and haveidentification papers. If you are not certain that an
animal is aservice animal, you may ask the person who has the animal if
it
is aservice animal required because of a disability. However,
anindividual
with a disability is not likely to be carryingdocumentation of his or
her
medical condition or disability, and suchdocumentation may not be
required
as a condition for allowing them inthe park. DOJ has also stated that,
although a number of States haveprograms to certify service animals, you
may
not insist on proof ofState certification before permitting the service
animal to accompanythe person with a disability.In some very limited
situations the NPS may require additionalprocedures to verify that the
animal is providing a service for aqualified person with a disability.
The
NPS already utilizes aprocedure to determine if an individual is a
qualified
individual witha disability for purposes of receiving a Golden Access
Passport. Thatprocedure requires either written documentation of a
disability or thesigning of a statement attesting to having a disability
as
defined byFederal law. A similar procedure could be utilized with regard
toservice animals in cases where a superintendent believes it
isnecessary.According to DOJ guidance, and as discussed above, a
superintendentmay close an area to all service animals upon an
individualizedassessment and a written determination that allowance of
any
domesticanimal would pose a direct threat to the health and safety of
peopleor wildlife. This determination must also follow the requirements
of36
CFR 1.5/1.7. However, the legal burden is on the superintendentto
justify
closing an area of the park to service animals accompanyingpersons with
disabilities.We ask each superintendent to ensure that all staff that
interact withthe public, including our concessions staff, be informed of
thisdecision and take whatever steps are necessary to implement
thisaction
as quickly as possible. If you have any questions regardingthis issue,
you
may contact David Park, Accessibility ProgramCoordinator at
202/513-7027, or
Kym Hall, Regulations Program Managerat 202/208-4206. [end of memo]
I assume the NPS has adopted regulations consistent with this memo,but I
don't have time to look them up right now.
Finally, here's a book on this very subject:
Dog Packing in National Parks -- How a Pack Dog Became a Service Dog by
Jane
Cox
Hope this clarifies things. I am as averse to trolls as the next guy,
but I
can tell you from personal experience that dealing with a serious
disability
is no fun and makes some people bitter and crabby. We can respond to
those
folks with rancor, thus making them even more bitter and crabby, or we
can
try to cut them some slack. Nearly everyone responds positively to
kindness.
Wayne Kraft
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:37:05 -0700
From: Connie Davis <conniedavis@earthlink.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Palm Springs visit--consider the tram
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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We're also stopping in Palm Springs, but we plan to hike to the tram,
take it down and contact our family from there. There are several
trails leading from the PCT to the tram.
Connie
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:37:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kim Owen <hikenkim@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Donner to Castella suggestions?
To: pctl pct-l <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Hi,
I plan to hike from Donner Pass to Castella this summer and am looking
for any trail wisdom
that this list might provide to make the journey more enjoyable. I
particularly like to chase
and photograph wild flowers, so if anyone knows when the bloom season
for that stretch is
good, I would appreciate the opinion. My target is sometime in June or
July.
Also, I am considering hitching out to Quincy for resupply, but cannot
find much in the PCT
Town Guide (2002). Any info to offer?
Other caveates, suggestions welcomed.
Thanks,
Kimo
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:44:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Trolls, flames, etc.
To: PCT MailingList <pct-l@backcountry.net>
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This message is mainly for humor. If you want a
lowdown on flame wars go to:
www.flamewarriors.com
For all about trolls in paticular:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/troller.htm
Also, beware of Dave (whose latest e-mail is
akamp@qwest.net ). He is a known troll on several
e-mail lists and seems to enjoy soliciting arguements.
His hiking claims are dubious at best as well. Just a
heads up.
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a portion of the rainbow I have clutched
--Thoreau
http://www.magnanti.com
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:10:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Erica Martin <pcthiken05@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] GPS, is it worth it?
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Hi all,
I'm going to attempt a solo thru-hike of the PCT starting in campo on
the 23rd. I have some but very little experience with snow route finding
and map and compass work, enough to feel OK attempting this treck even
with all the snow. The debate is, I have a friend who is worried and is
trying to convience me to get and carry a GPS system, I have never used
one and don't know if it's worth the weight and time to learn how to use
one. Any Advice?
Any insights eaither way will be helpful, mtnfaery
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:21:59 -0700
From: JDRows <jdrows@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trolls, flames, etc.
To: pmags@yahoo.com
Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l@backcountry.net>
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Paul Magnanti wrote:
Also, beware of Dave (whose latest e-mail isakamp@qwest.net ). */_His
hiking claims are dubious at best as well._/* Just a heads up.
==========
Ain't that the truth!
JD
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:23:01 -0700
From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] thru-hiking with dogs.
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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using the same limp you use when walking from the handicapped parking
spot
into the store works well along with a bogus service dog declaration.
s.c.
>no questioning is allowed once the declaration has been made.
>
> Carolyn Eddy
> "Sweet Goat Mama"
> www.goattracksmagazine.com
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:33:30 -0700
From: "Scott Parks" <scott@delnorteresort.com>
Subject: [pct-l] GPS, is it worth it?
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Being in a snow covered wilderness you've never seen before can be a bit
daunting. Knowing how to use a map and compass is a must.
With that said, you certainly won't need a gps, not on this trail. A
compass,
decent skills and sense of adventure is more than enough.
Scott
> friend who is worried and is trying to convience me to get and carry a
GPS
> system, I have never used one and don't know if it's worth the weight
and time
> to learn how to use one. Any Advice?
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:29:55 -0700
From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Fishin' the JMT
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best luck I've had was not only the outlet of thousand island lake, but
the
marie lakes......not one fish under 12" in there it seemed....
last trip I did well in paiute creek (a little off the trail on the
approach
to pauiute pass) by fishing the ripples below falls.....
I use mepps 1 gold spinners, titanium fry pan, seasoned salt and olive
oil.
mmmm
and I swear I saw a couple 20-24"ers come out of thousand island lake
once,
though I got skunked there last trip.
s.c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Woods" <wpsnotebook@charter.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:23 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Fishin' the JMT
> EEE HAAAHHH!
> Thousand Islands Lake was great. Got there in early July, late, late
> afternoon with gear maintenance to attend to, so the two I caught in
> last light in about 15 minutes were still skinny from the winter, but
> lots of fun. At the outflow under the dam.
> I sometimes pack a short flyrod, glad I did for that trip. Lots of
> little lakes between Devil's Postpile and Tuolumne, not to mention
> Lyell Fork - fly fishing heaven. All I needed was a regular license,
> with the normal limits. Farther south, Duck Lake looked good, although
> I didn't stop. Johnston Lake is a few miles north of the Monument,
> small and might have been active, but I passed through at the wrong
> time of day for fishing, right time of day to become a moving mosquito
> buffet. Shadow Lake is deep in a valley, fairly wooded and steep -
> might be spin-casting territory unless you're really good with a
flyrod
> roll cast. Garnet Lake is also pretty, but Thousand Island has it all.
> I could happily spend weeks looking for lunkers there.
>
> Rick
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:35:24 -0700
From: Peter Dascalos <pdascalos@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] GPS, is it worth it?
To: Erica Martin <pcthiken05@yahoo.com>,
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I find that I use my GPS regularly when I am on the trail. I have a
Garmin Geko 201(http://www.garmin.com/products/geko201/). This is a
simple GPS that has good battery life and is small and light. I only
turn on the Geko to get my UTM coordinates and can in a matter of a
minute locate myself on the map. By setting waypoints at critical
junctions I am also able to route find very easily. Just last month we
got of trail and were able to get back on track and find the trail
junction within minutes. I also use a grid tool
(http://www.maptools.com) in conjunction with the GPS and map to make
locating positions a snap.
Hopefully you have some map and compass skills to build upon. I carry
a compass as a backup. You never know, electronic devices can fail.
But after learning how to us my GPS, I would not leave home without
it.
Good luck, Peter
On 4/19/05, Erica Martin <pcthiken05@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm going to attempt a solo thru-hike of the PCT starting in campo on
the 23rd. I have some but very little experience with snow route finding
and map and compass work, enough to feel OK attempting this treck even
with all the snow. The debate is, I have a friend who is worried and is
trying to convience me to get and carry a GPS system, I have never used
one and don't know if it's worth the weight and time to learn how to use
one. Any Advice?
> Any insights eaither way will be helpful, mtnfaery
>
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