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[pct-l] forester/ski mt photos

Great photos! Especially with the trail marked on them.  When trying to
print the photos, I could only get 1 part of each.  Is there someway to
print the entire photo?  Thx Judith
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>    1. Re: [BULK] - [pct-l] Cutting a Fuller Ridge trail
>       (dsaufley@sprynet.com)
>    2. Re: PCT hikers (StoneDancer1@aol.com)
>    3. Re: [BULK] - [pct-l] Cutting a Fuller Ridge trail (Scott Herriott)
>    4. Travel to Toulmne and Rt 120 (MrCee237@aol.com)
>    5. Re: PCT Beer of the day (David)
>    6. RE: PCT hikers (Jerry Goller)
>    7. Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos (pcnst2001@covad.net)
>    8. Re: PCT hikers (Gary Wright)
>    9. Perseids (Mark Wright)
>   10. starting late. . . hiking alone? (Victor Hanson-Smith)
>   11. Re: Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos (Michael Lissner)
>   12. RE: starting late. . . hiking alone? (Rob Rathmann)
>   13. Re: Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos (Steve Peterson)
>   14. RE: Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos (AsABat)
>   15. Re: Travel to Toulmne and Rt 120 (Slyatpct@aol.com)
>   16. RE: PCT hikers (Chris Willett)
>   17. RE: starting late. . . hiking alone? (Chris Willett)
>   18. Opening Date at VVR (Eric Yakel)
>   19. Re: Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos
>       (leo-spencer@comcast.net)
>   20. Re: Perseids (Pearson)
>   21. Crater Lake (Terry Marbach)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:14:22 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: dsaufley@sprynet.com
> Subject: Re: [BULK] - [pct-l] Cutting a Fuller Ridge trail
> To: Marion Davison <mardav@charter.net>, PCT List
> <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> Yours reminds me of a story a fellow mountain biker told me.  Apparently,
many years ago there were mining operations in the San Gabriels that used
llamas for pack purposes.  The legend goes that when the mining operations
ceased, some of the llamas were somehow left behind, and their progeny have
survived these generations in the wilds.  Well, one day, on a remote trail
somewhere in the San Gabes, this guy came around a corner almost smack into
a llama untethered to humans, which in the deep shadows he first mistook for
a bear.  Not only did it scare the beejeebees out of him, he said his mind
just could not compute what he had seen, since the shape and movement were
so unexpected and seemingly out of place, and definitely not a bear.  He
said it was a long time before his heart slowed down.
>
> Have you ever heard of these wild llamas?  His story made me curious.
>
> -=Donna Saufley=-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marion Davison <mardav@charter.net>
> Sent: Apr 6, 2005 8:58 PM
> To: dsaufley@sprynet.com, PCT List <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Subject: Re: [BULK] - [pct-l] Cutting a Fuller Ridge trail
>
> dsaufley@sprynet.com wrote:
>
> >The trail is used for a multitude of running and equestrian events, and
is often marked for these purposes.  Sometimes, if you're lucky, they've put
out water, too!
> >
> I had an enjoyable time a couple years ago during a training hike in
> Section D between Three points and Islip Saddle. We shared the trail
> with a 100 mile endurance running race.  They had marked the trail with
> flour, and were traveling west, so we got to meet every runner in the
> race as we traveled east.  Most of them had a big facial reaction to a
> string of five llamas which was a hoot for us.
> llamalady
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 00:16:00 EDT
> From: StoneDancer1@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT hikers
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <1f0.39707f39.2f860e00@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> In a message dated 4/6/2005 8:48:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> PCT@DelNorteResort.Com writes:
>
> >>>>I am horrified to think that the following post was  sent as an email
to
> the good
> folks at VVR, noting that this idiot enlisted  the list, en masse, in a
> feeble attempt
> to add weight to his pathetic  tirade.<<<<<
>
> I too read the recent post, and, since recently being accused of being
> totally insensitive, did not reply, but emailed VVR and told them that the
email
> was at least as supportive as detractive and offered to cut and paste all
the
> emails and send them should he be interested.
>
>
>
>
> "No Way" Ray  Echols
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Scott Herriott <yetifan@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [BULK] - [pct-l] Cutting a Fuller Ridge trail
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <20050407042046.22568.qmail@web54501.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> <Have you ever heard of these wild llamas?  His story
> made me curious.>
>
>
> Yes.  The local Bigfeet use them for polo ponies.  :)
>
>
> Squatch
> www.walkpct.com
>
>
> --- dsaufley@sprynet.com wrote:
> > Yours reminds me of a story a fellow mountain biker
> > told me.  Apparently, many years ago there were
> > mining operations in the San Gabriels that used
> > llamas for pack purposes.  The legend goes that when
> > the mining operations ceased, some of the llamas
> > were somehow left behind, and their progeny have
> > survived these generations in the wilds.  Well, one
> > day, on a remote trail somewhere in the San Gabes,
> > this guy came around a corner almost smack into a
> > llama untethered to humans, which in the deep
> > shadows he first mistook for a bear.  Not only did
> > it scare the beejeebees out of him, he said his mind
> > just could not compute what he had seen, since the
> > shape and movement were so unexpected and seemingly
> > out of place, and definitely not a bear.  He said it
> > was a long time before his heart slowed down.
> >
> > Have you ever heard of these wild llamas?  His story
> > made me curious.
> >
> > -=Donna Saufley=-
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marion Davison <mardav@charter.net>
> > Sent: Apr 6, 2005 8:58 PM
> > To: dsaufley@sprynet.com, PCT List
> > <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > Subject: Re: [BULK] - [pct-l] Cutting a Fuller Ridge
> > trail
> >
> > dsaufley@sprynet.com wrote:
> >
> > >The trail is used for a multitude of running and
> > equestrian events, and is often marked for these
> > purposes.  Sometimes, if you're lucky, they've put
> > out water, too!
> > >
> > I had an enjoyable time a couple years ago during a
> > training hike in
> > Section D between Three points and Islip Saddle. We
> > shared the trail
> > with a 100 mile endurance running race.  They had
> > marked the trail with
> > flour, and were traveling west, so we got to meet
> > every runner in the
> > race as we traveled east.  Most of them had a big
> > facial reaction to a
> > string of five llamas which was a hoot for us.
> > llamalady
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 00:49:15 EDT
> From: MrCee237@aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] Travel to Toulmne and Rt 120
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <1e8.38b35efd.2f8615cb@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Any suggestions on traveling to this location on the PCT? I'll be leaving
> early July from NY. ------EZ Campo to Rt 120 04'
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:57:47 -0700
> From: David <dajada@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT Beer of the day
> To: PCT MailingList <pct-l@backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <33dbe2a20504062157672d0abb@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> And even better is Full Sail Amber Ale, my hands down favorite!
>
> One of the benefits of living in the PNW are the microbrews, although
> they do nothing to help maintain the old lean mean hiking machine!
>
> On Apr 6, 2005 11:47 AM, Paul Magnanti <pmags@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Looked at my "Beer of the day calendar", just noticed
> > April 5th (yesterday) is  "Full Sail Switchback Ale"
> > brewed in Hood River, Oregon.  Described as
> > "pleasantly light and agile on the palate...".
> >
> > Some PCTers choose to re-suppply in Hood River rather
> > than Cascade Locks, so I'd say this brew qualifies as
> > a PCT brew.
> >
> > Another brew to add to the PCT beer list. :)
> >
> > ************************************************************
> > The true harvest of my life is intangible.... a little stardust caught,
a portion of the rainbow I have clutched
> > --Thoreau
> > http://www.magnanti.com
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:59:31 -0600
> From: "Jerry Goller" <jerrygoller@backpackgeartest.org>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] PCT hikers
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> Why horrified? If they are being talked about, either negatively or
> positively, on any list you are doing them a favor by letting them know
> about it. It's a good way to stop whispering campaigns and it gives them
the
> same forum to address issued raised even if those issues have already been
> addressed or are without merit.
>
> I deal with a lot of outdoor equipment manufacturers and I always pass the
> word when I see posts about their gear, good or bad on any list I'm on.
I've
> yet to have one not thank me for the heads up.
>
> Jerry
>
> http://www.BackpackGearTest.org : the most comprehensive interactive gear
> reviews and tests on the planet.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of stillroaming
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:51 PM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] PCT hikers
>
>
> I am horrified to think that the following post was sent as an email to
the
> good folks at VVR, noting that this idiot enlisted the list, en masse, in
a
> feeble attempt to add weight to his pathetic tirade.
>
> If anyone from VVR happens to be reading this, please consider this
> statement does not reflect everyone's opinion.
>
> > You are getting a lot of bad press on the PCT List  right now, about
> > staff
> > and other practices in 2004 vs other years. Between that  and having to
> open
> > late, maybe way late, you're going to have a very bad fiscal  year.
> >    I don't know you, have never  been there, but am beginning to change
my
>
> > mind about stopping there  for resupply. If I was you I'd get on the
pct-l
>
> > right now, and start giving us  some response and answers. You can
> subscribe at
> > _http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l_
> > (http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l)
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 01:08:17 -0400
> From: <pcnst2001@covad.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <200504070508.j3758H4J015011@webmail2.megamailservers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
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>
> http://pcnst.oakapple.net/forester/
>
> contains Ray Echols photos of the passes under discussion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 01:13:38 -0400
> From: Gary Wright <at2002@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT hikers
> To: stillroaming <PCT@DelNorteResort.Com>
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <dd155a065dd6e2e1e35536736fc7a117@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2005, at 11:51 PM, stillroaming wrote:
> > I am horrified to think that the following post was sent as an email
> > to the good
> > folks at VVR, noting that this idiot enlisted the list, en masse, in a
> > feeble attempt
> > to add weight to his pathetic tirade.
>
> What's to be horrified about? It is a fact that the recent discussion
> re: VVR
> on this list has included negative comments about VVR particularly in
> 2004.
> I probably would have worded things a bit differently if I had sent a
> note
> to VVR, but it seems reasonable to let VVR know that they had some
> unhappy
> customers last year.  The note doesn't imply in any way that the members
> of the list have taken a vote or come to some group consensus about VVR.
>
> I've run my own business and if there was negative word-of-mouth
> comments going
> around in a forum that I could investigate and participate in I would
> *want*
> to know about that so I could clarify the issue, correct the problem,
> update
> the community on changes, and so on.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 22:36:53 -0700
> From: Mark Wright <sparkymeister@gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Perseids
> To: Pacific Crest Trail Mailing List <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <c5fe6594050406223648ee9d19@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Since it's almost time to hit the trail I thought I would remind
> everybody of a spectacular show coming in August. Every year for a few
> days around August 12 there is a meteor shower called the Perseids.
> Unfortunately we will have a half moon on the 12th, but that's much
> better than a full moon. So mark it in your notes and keep an eye open
> for it. If the sky is clear and you have a south easterly view you
> could be treated to quite a show. And the higher your elevation the
> better.
>
> Back in 1999 my brother and I had an excellent campsite just above
> Upper Crabtree Lake by Whitney and we were not expecting anything.
> Then out of nowhere a fireball streaked across the sky. Some of them
> were so bright that the tail took didn't disappear until after it
> passed out of site behind the mountain. An amazing fireworks display!
> It was made more breathtaking by the fact that we just had a smoke
> (not tobacco). The only downside is that the really bright ones that
> passed out of view before burning out left us wondering if they might
> have taken out Lone Pine.
>
> I'm hoping to see an aurora as I head farther north. Pray for an
> Earthbound coronal mass ejection.
>
> http://comets.amsmeteors.org/meteors/showers/perseidobs.html
>
>
> Mark
>
> --
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:10:16 -0700
> From: Victor Hanson-Smith <victorhansonsmith@gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] starting late. . . hiking alone?
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Obviously, I'm concerned about snow this year.  I can only add so many
> zero days between Campo and Kennedy Meadows before the hike becomes
> more resting than hiking.  Consequently, I am thinking about starting
> a week or two after the ADZ.  If I start "late" will I be hiking
> alone?
>
> Thanks for any advice,
> Victor
> PCT 2005
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:42:27 -0700
> From: Michael Lissner <mlissner@aidshike.org>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos
> To: PCT List <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <4254D653.2090007@aidshike.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Anybody have similar photos of these passes except with high snow
> levels? Sorry if they've already been offered up, I've been quick to
> delete lately.
>
> -mike
>
> www.aidshike.org
>  -510.547.4299-
>
>
>
> pcnst2001@covad.net wrote:
>
> >http://pcnst.oakapple.net/forester/
> >
> >contains Ray Echols photos of the passes under discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:45:30 -0400
> From: "Rob Rathmann" <rrathmann@groupconvergence.com>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] starting late. . . hiking alone?
> To: <mail@VictorHansonSmith.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <JMEIKDAJPOCDAGALENJIIEONDOAA.rrathmann@groupconvergence.com>
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>
> I plan on leaving campo around the 15th of may.
>
> Rob Rathmann
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Victor
> Hanson-Smith
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:10 AM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] starting late. . . hiking alone?
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Obviously, I'm concerned about snow this year.  I can only add so many
> zero days between Campo and Kennedy Meadows before the hike becomes
> more resting than hiking.  Consequently, I am thinking about starting
> a week or two after the ADZ.  If I start "late" will I be hiking
> alone?
>
> Thanks for any advice,
> Victor
> PCT 2005
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:48:53 -0700
> From: Steve Peterson <steve_peterson@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos
> Cc: PCT List <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <42551E25.6010407@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> As a matter of fact, yes! Here are two from Jonathan Breen's 1998 hike,
taken on
> June 19th. The first photo shows both Forester and Ski Mountaineers
Passes; the
> second is a closer view of Forester--in this one you can clearly see the
snow
> chute and just barely make out what I take to be a cornice on the left
side of
> the pass and which continues on over the snow chute. Jonathan took Ski
> Montaineer's pass, as did Chris, Janelle and Randy (according to
Jonathan). For
> those not familiar with this area, the camera makes it seem like the
angles
> aren't as steep--so things are a lot steeper than they look in the photos.
>
> http://www.jonh.net/breen/public_html/photos/small/r012-72855_01.jpg
> http://www.jonh.net/breen/public_html/photos/small/r012-72855_02.jpg
>
> (If you have to type those URLs, make sure you properly distinguish
between the
> underscore and hyphen)
>
> Michael Lissner wrote:
> > Anybody have similar photos of these passes except with high snow
> > levels? Sorry if they've already been offered up, I've been quick to
> > delete lately.
> >
> > -mike
> >
> > www.aidshike.org
> > -510.547.4299-
> >
> >
> >
> > pcnst2001@covad.net wrote:
> >
> >> http://pcnst.oakapple.net/forester/
> >>
> >> contains Ray Echols photos of the passes under discussion.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 06:07:17 -0700
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <000901c53b72$b9868ac0$6401010a@TUSER>
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>
> Ah ha! That makes more sense, going _east_ of the lake after coming over
Ski
> Mountaineers Pass, and meeting the PCT at the outlet of the lake.
>
> AsABat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> http://pcnst.oakapple.net/forester/
>
> contains Ray Echols photos of the passes under discussion.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:22:51 EDT
> From: Slyatpct@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Travel to Toulmne and Rt 120
> To: MrCee237@aol.com, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <1f5.72a1e3e.2f868e2b@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> In a message dated 4/7/2005 12:49:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> MrCee237@aol.com writes:
>
> > Any suggestions on traveling to this location on the PCT? I'll be
leaving
> > early July from NY. ------EZ Campo to Rt 120 04'
> >
>
> EZ,
>
> I'm not sure if either is still running but I think you can take Amtrak
from
> either San Francisco or Oakland to Yosemite Valley and then a park bus to
> Toulemne Meadows.
>
> You may also be able to get to the Valley from Fresno.
>
> Don't forget to go see the Giant Sequoias at Mariposa Grove if you haven't
> done so all ready.
>
> Sly
>
> PS With *all the snow* you may want to consider waiting until late July or
> even August.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 06:52:58 -0700
> From: "Chris Willett" <CWillett@pierce.ctc.edu>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] PCT hikers
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>, "stillroaming"
> <PCT@DelNorteResort.Com>
> Message-ID:
> <62C689C9C0C6A141AED8F6B8121FB8930781C815@mail.pierce.ctc.edu>
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>
> Yeah, I was pretty disgusted by it also.  It was especially bad in that I
haven't even gotten to my coffee yet this morning.  As I've said in other
posts and places, VVR is a wonderful place to take a break in the Sierra and
the problems that others have mentioned simply were not there when I (or
others that I know and trust) were around.  If this was an ordinary, private
email it could be written off as the claptrap that it is ("I have never been
there, but...", "...very bad fiscal year...").  However, it was written in
such a way to assert that the opinion of those on the PCT-L conforms to not
only the content, but the tone, of the email. This is definitely not the
case and I dislike being used in such a way.
>
> Suge
>
> ---------------------------
> Christopher Willett
> cwillett@pierce.ctc.edu
> www.pierce.ctc.edu/faculty/cwillett
> Pierce College
> 9401 Farwest Drive SW.
> Lakewood, WA. 98498-1999
>
> > ----------
> > From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net on behalf of stillroaming
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2005 8:51 PM
> > To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> > Subject: [pct-l] PCT hikers
> >
> > I am horrified to think that the following post was sent as an email to
the good
> > folks at VVR, noting that this idiot enlisted the list, en masse, in a
feeble attempt
> > to add weight to his pathetic tirade.
> >
> > If anyone from VVR happens to be reading this, please consider this
> > statement does not reflect everyone's opinion.
> >
> > > You are getting a lot of bad press on the PCT List  right now, about
staff
> > > and other practices in 2004 vs other years. Between that  and having
to open
> > > late, maybe way late, you're going to have a very bad fiscal  year.
> > >    I don't know you, have never  been there, but am beginning to
change my
> > > mind about stopping there  for resupply. If I was you I'd get on the
pct-l
> > > right now, and start giving us  some response and answers. You can
subscribe at
> > > _http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l_
> > > (http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l)
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 06:58:11 -0700
> From: "Chris Willett" <CWillett@pierce.ctc.edu>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] starting late. . . hiking alone?
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>, <mail@VictorHansonSmith.com>
> Message-ID:
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> No, definitely not. I started May 9 and on day one ran into several
hikers, one of which (Glory) I hiked with, on and off, until around
Dunsmuir.  By Idyllwild I had hooked up with another two (Will and Birdie)
that I ran with, again on and off, for a long, long time.  By Big Bear I was
getting iinto the back end of the main pack. It took me about a month to get
to KM and I don't think I was rushing it at all.  But, you could easily
delay getting into KM until around June 20 by starting on, say, May 14.
>
> Suge
>
> ---------------------------
> Christopher Willett
> cwillett@pierce.ctc.edu
> www.pierce.ctc.edu/faculty/cwillett
> Pierce College
> 9401 Farwest Drive SW.
> Lakewood, WA. 98498-1999
>
> > ----------
> > From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net on behalf of Victor
Hanson-Smith
> > Reply To: mail@VictorHansonSmith.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2005 11:10 PM
> > To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> > Subject: [pct-l] starting late. . . hiking alone?
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Obviously, I'm concerned about snow this year.  I can only add so many
> > zero days between Campo and Kennedy Meadows before the hike becomes
> > more resting than hiking.  Consequently, I am thinking about starting
> > a week or two after the ADZ.  If I start "late" will I be hiking
> > alone?
> >
> > Thanks for any advice,
> > Victor
> > PCT 2005
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:26:19 -0700
> From: "Eric Yakel" <eyakel@earthlink.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Opening Date at VVR
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <005d01c53b7d$ca008670$efc7b3d1@David>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I read a post about two weeks about VVR possibly not opening until July
4th.  I attempted to e-mail them and got no response.  If anyone has a
better address and could
> ask this question it would be of great benefit in my final planning stages
for thru-hike re-supply this year.  Thanks in advance!  Eric Y.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:37:02 +0000
> From: leo-spencer@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Forester/Ski Mountaineers  Passes photos
> To: pcnst2001@covad.net, pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>
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>
> Excellent Ray Echols pictures of Forester and Ski Mountain passes. The
route line of march for Mountain Pass is particularly helpful.
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> >
> > http://pcnst.oakapple.net/forester/
> >
> > contains Ray Echols photos of the passes under discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:09:16 -0700
> From: "Pearson" <stprsn@softcom.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Perseids
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <004001c53b83$c4e6ecf0$175dd1d1@PearsonHP>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>
> We had a great experience last year near Etna when the meteor shower hit.
> The only problem we had was to not lay watching the wonderful light show
all
> night long and be too tired to hike in the morning.  We watched until
about
> 11pm and then found ourselves waking up every few hours to see if there
was
> more to see...and there was! Didn't get the best nights sleep, but that
was
> a fabulous night under the stars on the trail.
>
> Taper Off
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Wright" <sparkymeister@gmail.com>
> To: "Pacific Crest Trail Mailing List" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:36 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Perseids
>
>
> > Since it's almost time to hit the trail I thought I would remind
> > everybody of a spectacular show coming in August. Every year for a few
> > days around August 12 there is a meteor shower called the Perseids.
> > Unfortunately we will have a half moon on the 12th, but that's much
> > better than a full moon. So mark it in your notes and keep an eye open
> > for it. If the sky is clear and you have a south easterly view you
> > could be treated to quite a show. And the higher your elevation the
> > better.
> >
> > Back in 1999 my brother and I had an excellent campsite just above
> > Upper Crabtree Lake by Whitney and we were not expecting anything.
> > Then out of nowhere a fireball streaked across the sky. Some of them
> > were so bright that the tail took didn't disappear until after it
> > passed out of site behind the mountain. An amazing fireworks display!
> > It was made more breathtaking by the fact that we just had a smoke
> > (not tobacco). The only downside is that the really bright ones that
> > passed out of view before burning out left us wondering if they might
> > have taken out Lone Pine.
> >
> > I'm hoping to see an aurora as I head farther north. Pray for an
> > Earthbound coronal mass ejection.
> >
> > http://comets.amsmeteors.org/meteors/showers/perseidobs.html
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --
> > Have fun or die trying - but try not to actually die.
> > http://www.AboveCalifornia.com
> > Got Mac OS X? Get the AboveCalifornia Sherlock Channel:
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:35:22 -0500
> From: "Terry Marbach" <terry@kirrmar.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Crater Lake
> To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <003101c53b8f$cc23af60$181ea8c0@terrypc>
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>
> Website for Xanterra, the operator of the concessions in Crater Lake
Natonal
> Park, indicates that the only restaurant open this year will be the one in
> the Lodge.
> Llao Rock Cafe and Watchman Restaurant are closed.
>
>
>
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