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- Subject: [pct-l] RE: pct-l Digest, Vol 5, Issue 19
- From: jcoyle at sanjuan.edu (John Coyle)
- Date: Fri Sep 19 13:10:26 2003
Re: Affording a thru hike by Jeffrey Olson
I have a nice little camper custom made for a long bed Dakota here in
Sacramento by a reputable camper dealer. It has a table that converts to a
bed, an icebox, and a storage compartment over the cab. It is not as
elaborate as a full sized camper but it is insulated and more than a simple
shell. The inside is like new and the outside is good except for one small
ding in front where I hit a bird. I paid about $2200 for it new eight years
ago and then three years ago traded my Dakota in for a Civic; still have the
camper though. Of course you're in Wyoming and I'm in Sacramento. J.
Coyle(new PCT member)
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Today's Topics:
1. (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike (Platypus)
2. Re: (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike (Hayduke)
3. Re: (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike (Steve Setzer)
4. (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike (Platypus)
5. Re: Affording a thru hike (Robert Logue)
6. PCT Diamonds are still out there in fair number
(Montedodge@aol.com)
7. Greetings! (Jeff Brenner)
8. re: Re-entry into real life (Paul Magnanti)
9. RE: PCT diamond markers (Beth Murdock)
10. lightweight packs (JohnDRandall@aol.com)
11. Ryback campsite on pct (Deems)
12. RE: (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike (judson)
13. Affording a thru hike (Jeffrey J. Olson)
14. Re: Ryback campsite on pct (David hiking PCNST in bits)
15. Monte's new Dog Musher stove rips!! (Montedodge@aol.com)
16. Re: Ryback campsite on pct (Carl Siechert)
17. Clinton Clarke on ebay (Christine Kudija)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:48:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Platypus <PlatyHiker@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike
To: PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
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Rather than factoring in lost wages, you may want to factor in lost
savings. If your salary is high, but your non-hiking living expenses
are also high, you may not be giving up a lot to go on a thru hike,
provided you minimize your fixed costs. But, if you've been saving
aggressively for some other goal, say retirement or a house, going on
a thru-hike does halt those saves for the duration of the hike.
> I think the cost of a thru hike is a little more complicated than this.
> One has (fixed costs)+(money spent on trail). Some people might want to
> factor in lost wages.
> But, we can certainly subtract from the total (fixed)+(spent)+(lost
> wages) the
> amount of money one would usually spend if one was at home.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:07:25 -0700
From: "Hayduke" <hayduke@toughguy.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike
To: <PlatyHiker@yahoo.com>, <PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Lately I have been trying to figure out how to create for myself a reliable
source of revenue that I can be away from for 4-5 months at a time. My goal
isn't to have the income continue while hiking. I just want to be able to
come back to "society" and start it back up.
The perspective I have taken is that I need an income that is high enough to
earn enough money in 6-7 months to cover my entire expenses for a 12 month
period. For example if I owned a home, I would need to make enough to pay
mortages and taxes for the months I am on the trail. I also save about
15-20% of my income into a retirement account. When I examine options, I try
to make sure I can maintain an equivalent amount annually. That's the part
that makes it really tough. There are plenty of ways to work 6-7 months and
be able to afford to hike the other months every year, but the nature of
"seasonal" work doesn't often pay well enough to allow me to save for
retirement AND the next long hike.
Anyone have ideas for good income during the winter months?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Platypus" <PlatyHiker@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: [pct-l] (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike
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> Rather than factoring in lost wages, you may want to factor in lost
> savings. If your salary is high, but your non-hiking living expenses
> are also high, you may not be giving up a lot to go on a thru hike,
> provided you minimize your fixed costs. But, if you've been saving
> aggressively for some other goal, say retirement or a house, going on
> a thru-hike does halt those saves for the duration of the hike.
>
> > I think the cost of a thru hike is a little more complicated than this.
> > One has (fixed costs)+(money spent on trail). Some people might want to
> > factor in lost wages.
>
> > But, we can certainly subtract from the total (fixed)+(spent)+(lost
> > wages) the
> > amount of money one would usually spend if one was at home.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:14:02 -0600 (MDT)
From: Steve Setzer <Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike
To: Hayduke <hayduke@toughguy.net>
Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Work for a university. I'm able to save up enough for a thru hike from
Oct - May. Then I can take 5 mo. leave. Most people don't have that
luxury so I think I'm in a rare situation to be able to do this. I'm not
a seasonal worker, I'm an engineer. But I don't think I could pull this
off if I worked for a private firm.
Steve
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Hayduke wrote:
> Lately I have been trying to figure out how to create for myself a
reliable
> source of revenue that I can be away from for 4-5 months at a time. My
goal
> isn't to have the income continue while hiking. I just want to be able to
> come back to "society" and start it back up.
>
> The perspective I have taken is that I need an income that is high enough
to
> earn enough money in 6-7 months to cover my entire expenses for a 12 month
> period. For example if I owned a home, I would need to make enough to pay
> mortages and taxes for the months I am on the trail. I also save about
> 15-20% of my income into a retirement account. When I examine options, I
try
> to make sure I can maintain an equivalent amount annually. That's the part
> that makes it really tough. There are plenty of ways to work 6-7 months
and
> be able to afford to hike the other months every year, but the nature of
> "seasonal" work doesn't often pay well enough to allow me to save for
> retirement AND the next long hike.
>
> Anyone have ideas for good income during the winter months?
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:35:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: Platypus <PlatyHiker@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike
To: PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
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About saving for retirement AND saving for a thru-hike ...
One factor in your income options is whether want to do (just) one big
thru-hike, or one every year (or maybe every other year). With doing only
one big trip you have more options. I've known a number of different
software folks who were able to either get an unpaid leave and return to
their jobs or quit their jobs and easily get rehired by the same company
after the hike. And the software business has a lot of jobs that pay quite
generously. It's easiest to be able to return to the same job/company if
you've worked there at least several years and are seen as a 'valuable'
employee. If you've only been a job a short amount of time, your employer
probably won't think it's worth his effort to try to keep your job open for
you when you return. And, if you're going on a big hike every year, your
employer may think it is more hassle than it is worth to deal with you. In
order to be able to save significantly for retirement, some folks might
have to move to a plan of doing multiple big hikes on a less frequent
schedule - maybe 3 to 5 years between big hikes. The other option is try
to increase income (second job?) and/or decrease spending enough to achieve
your savings goals.
P.S. For the past two years, the software business has been in a slump and
it's a lot harder to get rehired after an absense. I know somebody who was
let go while on an unpaid leave and it took him more than a year to find
another job. Not fun.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Logue <robertlogue@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Affording a thru hike
To: PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
Message-ID: <20030918203941.95347.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com>
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A lot of technical computer jobs pay very well for contract and
temporary positions lasting six months or less. Depending on your age
and current skill set, retraining for this field is not easy, quick, or
cheap, but could be very rewarding financially if you choose to go this
way. I hear that there are a lot of short term opportunities for
nurses, as well.
You might try a few "informational" interviews with contract and temp
agencies in the area where you have chosen to live and see what
positions are most in demand and see if any of them are feasible for
you to go out for or retrain for.
--- Hayduke <hayduke@toughguy.net> wrote:
> "seasonal" work doesn't often pay well enough to allow me to save for
> retirement AND the next long hike.
>
> Anyone have ideas for good income during the winter months?
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:54:59 EDT
From: Montedodge@aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] PCT Diamonds are still out there in fair number
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Still a good number of the old diamonds out on the trail! Problem is they
are on the trail no longer being used!! The old Cascade Crest Trail of
Washington has many such markers.
Much of the current PCT was moved in the mid to late 70's for one reason
or another. During my 1977 trip, I had a copy of the Cascade Crest Guide
with
me in Washington and took the old trail where it was more scenic or easier.
(
Of course, easier was not as in seemed as old Cascade Crest had many years
of
blow downs)
If you can get an old copy or old maps , you can retrace the CCT and
still
see the old markers today. Many are little more than a " Knot Holes" with a
touch of green in the middle as the tree is reclaiming them. Many of the old
markers in Oregon from the old " Skyline route" have been burned along with
the
trees the last few years.
You need to talk to Bob Norton in Skycomish who knows both the CCT and the
PCT in Washington well with a good map. He can show you the old 60's trail
route if you are in to bushwhacking with lots of old diamonds.
I spotted one with Yogi a few weeks ago on today's PCT which was about
half covered by the reclaiming tree. ( Awsome pic shot!!!) Monte
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:08:29 -0700
From: "Jeff Brenner" <hwy49@hotmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Greetings!
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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I have been a member of the mailing list for a week now and feeling guilty
that I haven't introduced myself yet!
I have been wating to hike the PCT for about 25 years now, ever since I read
Eric Ryback's book. I am finally getting my chance and am going to attempt
a thru-hike in 2005, starting on what will be my 42nd birthday. I grew up
hiking and backpacking in the San Gabriel mountains as well is in the Lake
Tahoe area but have spent way too much time behind a desk and have done
exactly zero miles in the last ten years. I plan on spending the next 590
days or so getting back into shape, hiking some sections near my home
(between Sonora Pass and Echo Summit) and planning out this adventure that I
have waiting so long to do.
Anyway, I'm having fun reading through all of the journals and already
getting to know a lot of your names. Just wanted to let you know that I am
lurking in the background soaking up all of the info that I can get my hands
on...and thoroughly enjoying every bit of it.
Jeff Brenner, Pine Grove, CA. (trail name soon to be chosen by my 3 teenage
nieces)
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:16:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags@yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] re: Re-entry into real life
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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In October of 2001, wrote this little blurb. I had
just came back from the ALDHA-East Gathering, and was
preparing for my PCT thru-hike of 2002. As I get
ready to again commit to another long hike this little
blurb seems appropriate. And the discussion we are
having seems to make it timely, too. The AT
references should be changed to Sierras, Cascades,
glaciers..etc..but the sentiments have not changed in
two years. Maybe someone on this list may like reading
it.. :-)
******
The return home. It is part of the journey that is not
talked about when the hike is planned. In our minds,
we see ourselves on the ridgeline, basking in the sun.
The triumphant last step after seeing the last white
blaze on Springer or Katahdin. Reaching a forest road
in a remote stretch of woods, finishing the trail
after using vacation time to achieve a dream.
Seldom do we think about the return home. Adjusting to
the "real world" after a few days in the woods can be
jarring. Instead of sipping tea at a quiet campsite,
the reality becomes drinking coffee in a noisy
breakroom. We exchange the two-mile an hour pace of
walking for the ten-mile an hour pace of a traffic jam
on a busy interstate.
The return to what is considered civilization is even
more jarring after a hike of several weeks or months.
>From walking on the ridgetop of the Appalachians to
walking in a crowded shopping plaza is a harsh
transition. The daily rhythm of life is no longer set
by where the next water supply is located or by the
rising and setting of the sun. Dentist appointments,
the lunch hour, and the evening news now set the daily
rhytm of life.
After the return home, the mind begins to wander.
During the commute to work, a campsite in a shady
grove of trees is remembered. While waiting in line at
a grocery store, a memory of ponies in Grayson
Highlands is recalled.
Weeks or months go by. For some, a realization is
made. Home does not seem to be this world of fax
machines, blips and bleeps. Home has become where the
smell of fallen leaves is still fresh. Home has become
where the wind gusts by at 30 MPH on the Franconia
Ridge.
We get to return home for a little while at times. A
weekend here of there. Vacation time used for the rare
hike of a week. But it is a short visit back home. Not
quite enough to reacquaint oursevles with how much
this home means. Sometimes we meet others who are
trying to get back home. It may be raucous May weekend
in Damascus, or a reflective time in October to gather
together with friends who have not been seen for a
while. We all recall what home was like, when we can
return for a long visit.
Then one year, we can return home for a long visit.
The time become right, debts are settled, and money is
saved. The boots are again laced; the pack is strapped
on the back. We have returned home. Home be the
Appalachians or a new home in the Sierras or on the
crest of the continent. But we are home. And we are
glad to return.
************
June '04 ain't that far away...is it? :-)
=====
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The true harvest of my life is intangible.... a little stardust caught, a
portion of the rainbow I have clutched
--Thoreau
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:06:39 -0700
From: "Beth Murdock" <dorothea@onemain.com>
Subject: RE: [pct-l] PCT diamond markers
To: "Steve Stenkamp" <sskamp@bendnet.com>, "pct-l"
<pct-l@backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <LOBBKEGLCAKDFHIMJHOCEEJIFKAA.dorothea@onemain.com>
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Most of the old markers here in the Cascades are firmly imbedded in the
trees they are growing in. Keeps them protected from vandalism and some are
only a few years from being completely grown over.
Beth in Portland, OR
(hoping to finish the PCT next year)
-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net]On Behalf Of Steve Stenkamp
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:24 PM
To: pct-l
Subject: [pct-l] PCT diamond markers
Count me in for a replica. Many times I have been tempted to snitch one for
myself. But I realize that if everyone felt that way there wouldn't be any
left. I have also had the same desires for the old Oregon Skyline Trail
emblems that I have seen on occasion. The old ones are a bit of history
that still belong on the trail.
Thanks Strider for your efforts.
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:28:56 EDT
From: JohnDRandall@aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] lightweight packs
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Message-ID: <122.2652f552.2c9bb5d8@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
I'm not sure if this is the site you're looking for Brian, but I've used a
G3
pack for the last two years and will probably upgrade to the G5 next year.
Glen's web page is at <A
HREF="http://www.gvpgear.com/";>http://www.gvpgear.com/</A>
john randall
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:33:37 -0700
From: "Deems" <losthiker@sisqtel.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Ryback campsite on pct
To: "pct" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <001201c37e4e$0d5fb1f0$95591fd0@S0029439031>
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Many of the old timers from the '70s got their pct dream inspirations from
reading Eric Ryback's 1970 book The High Adventure, me included. There were
few books, no internet, and no support groups to turn to 30 years ago to
solve the many intricate problems in solving a thru hike on the pct. We read
his book, got maps, shopped REI, and took to the pct trail, sink or swim.
Many sections of the pct from the '70s are not included in the current
trail, and some of these old pct sections in northern California are
incredible and seldom seen today from the current interstate trail. This
summer I used my old 1973 PCT guide book to find some of those hidden old
pct sections in the Marbles and Trinity Alps, and explored them. It was
great. Another 30 year old puzzle I solved was where was Eric's campsite
looking at King's Castle at sunset from the pct that shows up on page 105 of
his hard bound book of the High Adventure. After two great long dayhikes in
mid July, where I met several
thruhikers along the Big Ridge pct section, "Stone" was one; I found the
campsite by lining up the distant peaks and many clues that I could see in
the photo. In the book, he is using a couple of large sticks from the nearby
forest for his tarp, and a few decomposed dry sections were still there, 33
years later. Whatever has been written or said about Eric since paled by the
feeling I felt from finding a piece of his and my past along the pct that
day. Here is a link to that photo, hopefully..Hikon.
http://www.sisqtel.net/~losthiker/Ryback%20Camp%20PctMMW.jpg
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:05:18 -0700
From: "judson" <judsonb@internetcds.com>
Subject: RE: [pct-l] (Guest Post) Re: Affording a thru hike
To: <PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net>
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Ya know, before I started this whole thread, I should have mentioned that,
being a teacher, it's the time expenditure, more than the money, which makes
a thru-hike prohibitive. In today's climate of reduced school budgets and
cutbacks, there's no guarantee that I would get my job back if I took a
leave of absence.
Judson
Ashland
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:58:02 -0600
From: "Jeffrey J. Olson" <jjolson@uwyo.edu>
Subject: [pct-l] Affording a thru hike
To: <PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net>
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I'm contemplating a thru-hike beginning June 1, 2005. At 51 I'm thinking I
plan for it now and then do it, or I'm likely to make excuses until I die.
This involves leaving a tenure track university position, selling the house,
paying off the rest of the student loans, getting a camper for the Dakota,
and making sure I have enough money to go to Mantanchen Bay, Mexico to learn
to surf after the hike. That's the other part of dying happy - learning to
surf.
I can probably get another job at a university, but if not, I'll embark on
my fourth career. Where there is a will, there is a way...
Jeff Olson
Laramie, Wyoming,
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 20:39:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: David hiking PCNST in bits <pcnst2003@oakapple.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ryback campsite on pct
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Message-ID: <200309190339.h8J3d47M009761@server-f.oakapple.net>
> Many of the old timers from the '70s got their pct dream inspirations from
reading Eric Ryback's 1970 book The High Adventure
I think it was a little later than 1970. Anyway my first inspiration was
from Colin Fletcher's first book, The Thousand Mile Summer, which had
very little to do with the eventual route of the PCT but was remarkable even
so. I've since been to White Mountain and the Silver King areas due to
his inspiration.
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 00:27:47 EDT
From: Montedodge@aol.com
Subject: [pct-l] Monte's new Dog Musher stove rips!!
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
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Got my Ididarod Alcohol stove today. Basic the pot stand and windscreen is
a
5 gallon metal paint can with handle and a bunch of 1/2 inch holes drilled
around bottom.(Holds a 14 quart stock pot) Burner is a pie plate sized piece
and
looks like a flat over sized trangia as wide as the paint bucket. Looks easy
to copy and heats and boils better than anything I've ever seen!! ( Boils a
gallon of water in 3 minutes while using 10 ozs. of alcohol) This is same
stove/bucket combo used by dog races on the quest race and Ididarod.
When you see it in action , you will see why the coleman 2 burner stove
quickly became obsolite. Smaller versions will be easy to copy for scout
groups
and canoe trips. Hope to bring this to kick-off next year for a quick night
time demo. I will also bring it to the alda -west gathering in Oct.
While most versions are too large for the thru-hiker, they should be
perfect for winter snowshoe trips for melting snow and heating water. ( 24
ozs. of
fuel melts snow to make and boil 3 gallons of water) No wonder the racers
have
been using this since 1990 in Alaska and Yukon
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:35:59 -0700
From: "Carl Siechert" <csiechert@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ryback campsite on pct
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
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> > Many of the old timers from the '70s got their pct dream inspirations
from reading
>> Eric Ryback's 1970 book The High Adventure
>
> I think it was a little later than 1970. Anyway my first inspiration was
> from Colin Fletcher's first book, The Thousand Mile Summer, which had
Ryback's hike was in 1970; the book was published in 1971. (I just checked
my copy.) I received a copy as a high school graduation gift in 1973 and it
most definitely inspired me to take longer hikes. That summer, we hiked the
John Muir Trail. The next summer, Tahoe-Yosemite Trail. And in 1977, the
PCT. Of course, once on the PCT we had lots of laughs about Ryback's book. A
paperback copy was circulating among that year's hikers and it provided
plenty of inspiration in a new way.
Carl
1977 Kelty Kid
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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:24:52 -0700
From: "Christine Kudija" <cmkudija@earthlink.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Clinton Clarke on ebay
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Well, the auction ended around 7:00 PDT this morning, and the book sold for
(ouch!!!!!) $505.00!
A collector's item indeed!
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> Of course, once on the
> PCT we had lots of laughs about Ryback's book. A paperback copy
> was circulating among that year's hikers and it provided plenty of
> inspiration in a new way.
please forgive my ignorance; why did ya'll laugh about the book? was
the book overly dramatic, or did it include inacuracies, or is the
books just humorous?
I'm just curious. I have a copy of this book, but have not read it
yet.
thanks,
dude
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