The dude ranch in South Tahoe at Camp Richardson gave us a whole bale of hay this year when we ran out over 4th of July. Absolutely refused to take any money for it and loaded for us too. Everything was closed and due to my injury we had come off the trail with no food for the goats. Non-stock users have no idea what a great gift hay is. :-)) Carolyn "Sweet Goat Mama" www.goattracksmagazine.com