[pct-l] Scary bear story & not hanging food

[scourtway at bpa-arch.com (Steve Courtway)]

p.s.  most of the thru hikers I've spoken to on the JMT last few years (I
was up there this year, 2 and 3 years ago) and asked about cans were
carrying one.  So it's not like all the thru hikers are getting away with
stealth camping and this is an isolated incident.

s.c.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Courtway" <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
To: "dude" <dude@fastmail.ca>
Cc: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Scary bear story & not hanging food


> I know dude, I was being sarcastic.  This is not a "such bad bear
problems"
> situation either.  Properly storing and protecting food from incidents
like
> this is the HIKER'S responsibility, not the bear's responsibility for
> finding your "stealth" site hahaha, and stealth camping in general is a
> complete crap shoot, especially along the JMT.  5 people in camp doesn't
> sound very stealthy either. Bears can hear too ya know.  I'm glad you got
> lucky.
>
> s.c.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dude" <dude@fastmail.ca>
> To: <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
> Cc: <dnpct06@yahoo.com>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Scary bear story & not hanging food
>
>
> > Steve - I tend to agree with you 100%, BUT if you read Nacona's
> > journal, there WERE doing those things (cook away from camp and camp
> > stealthy).
> >
> > They were in Evolution Valley, which is a little north of Onion Valley
> > (the prime bear problem in the Sierra).  I haven't heard of such bad
> > bear problems in Evolution Valley; perhaps these were relocated bears,
> > or perhaps the bears in Evolution Valley are learning new tricks.
> > Either way, this is indeed scary because they seemed to be following
> > all the rules for Stealth Camping and still got hit.
> >
> > I am not saying this because I am against stealth camping.  In fact I
> > am not against it, as I have done the JMT twice using stealth
> > techniques and no canister.
> >
> > peace,
> > dude
> >
> >
> >
> > > sure, if you havn't seen a bear in a couple days and don't camp where
> > > you cook and are stealthy (shhhhhh) it's perfectly safe.
> > >
> > > heh heh,
> > > s.c.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan and Nina" <dnpct06@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 5:26 AM
> > > Subject: [pct-l] Scary bear story & not hanging food
> > >
> > >
> > >> I just posted a scary bear story in Nocona's journal
> > >> today: www.trailjournals.com/nocona2.
> > >>
> > >> Do most hikers really sleep out in the open with their
> > >> food under their feet when in bear country? I know
> > >> plenty of hikers who don't worry about hanging their
> > >> food, but it surprised me that this was so in the
> > >> Sierra.
> > >>
> > >> Nina/Waterfall
> > >> AT 2000
> > >> LT 20002
> > >> PCT ... 2006 :-)
> > >>
> > >> =====
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> > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0881505986/qid=108549012
> > > 7/sr=1 -1/ref=sr_1_1/104-4279170-1300733?v=glance&s=books
> > >>
> > >> Sheltowee's Book:
> > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0972903801/qid=108549015
> > > 9/sr=1 -1/ref=sr_1_1/104-4279170-1300733?v=glance&s=books
> > >>
> > >> Sheltowee's Web Site: http://www.sheltoweehikes.com
> > >>
> > >>
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