[pct-l] Scary bear story & not hanging food

[scourtway at bpa-arch.com (Steve Courtway)]

I know dude, I was being sarcastic.  This is not a "such bad bear problems"
situation either.  Properly storing and protecting food from incidents like
this is the HIKER'S responsibility, not the bear's responsibility for
finding your "stealth" site hahaha, and stealth camping in general is a
complete crap shoot, especially along the JMT.  5 people in camp doesn't
sound very stealthy either. Bears can hear too ya know.  I'm glad you got
lucky.

s.c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "dude" <dude@fastmail.ca>
To: <scourtway@bpa-arch.com>
Cc: <dnpct06@yahoo.com>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Scary bear story & not hanging food


> Steve - I tend to agree with you 100%, BUT if you read Nacona's
> journal, there WERE doing those things (cook away from camp and camp
> stealthy).
>
> They were in Evolution Valley, which is a little north of Onion Valley
> (the prime bear problem in the Sierra).  I haven't heard of such bad
> bear problems in Evolution Valley; perhaps these were relocated bears,
> or perhaps the bears in Evolution Valley are learning new tricks.
> Either way, this is indeed scary because they seemed to be following
> all the rules for Stealth Camping and still got hit.
>
> I am not saying this because I am against stealth camping.  In fact I
> am not against it, as I have done the JMT twice using stealth
> techniques and no canister.
>
> peace,
> dude
>
>
>
> > sure, if you havn't seen a bear in a couple days and don't camp where
> > you cook and are stealthy (shhhhhh) it's perfectly safe.
> >
> > heh heh,
> > s.c.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan and Nina" <dnpct06@yahoo.com>
> > To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 5:26 AM
> > Subject: [pct-l] Scary bear story & not hanging food
> >
> >
> >> I just posted a scary bear story in Nocona's journal
> >> today: www.trailjournals.com/nocona2.
> >>
> >> Do most hikers really sleep out in the open with their
> >> food under their feet when in bear country? I know
> >> plenty of hikers who don't worry about hanging their
> >> food, but it surprised me that this was so in the
> >> Sierra.
> >>
> >> Nina/Waterfall
> >> AT 2000
> >> LT 20002
> >> PCT ... 2006 :-)
> >>
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> >>
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