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Re: [pct-l] Re: pct-l-digest V1 #498
It snow yesterday at 4600 feet, not much but a few flakes. Upper
elevations got up to a foot of snow. Yes it is a wierd year.
Cheers
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> From: Dave Sloan <dsloan@hotmail.com>
> To: pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Re: pct-l-digest V1 #498
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 8:01 AM
>
> Michael,
>
> Regarding weather on the JMT in July: I did the JMT last September and
> it was snow free. Early Fall can be one of the best times to be in the
> Sierras. I prefer to walk the trail when there is no snow, and it
> sounds like you do, too. As you know, this is an unusual year and there
> has been a lot more snow than usual. This will not be the best year to
> do the JMT, but you'll definitely have better luck later in the Summer.
> I, myself, have decided to spend two weeks in the Canadian Rockies this
> summer instead of the Sierras, due to the snow pack.
>
> If you want more advice on the JMT, I've got plenty!
>
> dsloan@hotmail.com
>
> pct-l-digest wrote:
> >
> > pct-l-digest Wednesday, May 27 1998 Volume 01 :
Number 498
> >
> > In this issue:
> >
> > [pct-l] fwd:BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net: Non-member submission
from [drufner@u csd.edu (dan rufner)]
> > [pct-l] fwd BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> > [pct-l] fwd: BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net: Non-member
submission from [Craig Gif fen <craig@newestindustry.com>]
> > [pct-l] Hotel closed I-5 and 138 (fwd)
> > [pct-l] Auga Dulce box drop (fwd)
> > [pct-l] JMT weather (fwd)
> > [pct-l] Muir Trail Ranch supply drop note
> > [pct-l] Section F Trail Conditions
> > [pct-l] High Sierra Snow (sob)
> > RE: [pct-l] Auga Dulce box drop
> > [pct-l] TednDeb - Cascades in May
> > [pct-l] Seattlites - PCT at Snoqualmie
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:32:48 -0700
> > From: Brick Robbins <brick@ix.netcom.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] fwd:BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net: Non-member
submission from [drufner@u csd.edu (dan rufner)]
> >
> > >From owner-pct-l@saffron.hack.net Thu May 21 12:01:56 1998
> > Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:01:56 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: owner-pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> > To: owner-pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> > Subject: BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net: Non-member submission from
> > [drufner@u
> > csd.edu (dan rufner)]
> >
> > >From owner-pct-l Thu May 21 12:01:54 1998
> > Received: from mail.ucsd.edu (ucsd.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.1]) by
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> > May 19
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> > Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:01:10 +0100
> > To: pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> > From: drufner@ucsd.edu (dan rufner)
> > Subject: quick answer
> >
> > I haven't responded in awhile, in part due to the fact that the topics
> > haven't been of much interest to me lately due to much politicing going
on.
> > Thanks for getting back to trail topics.
> >
> > Michael wrote in with the snippet and question:
> >
> > "I am planning a trip on the Muir trail beginning July 1. The original
> > plan was to hike South to North and starting at Cottonwood pass (and
> > then approaching and climbing Whitney from the West), but when I called
> > the Whitney Ranger station in Lone Pine, I was advised that there would
> > probably still be snow at the peak and other passes.
> >
> >
> > My hiking partner and I do not have technical experience with crampons
> > or ice axes, and my guess is that Whitney is probably not the place to
> > learn!
> >
> > Unfortunately the question wasn't answered by anyone. In fact there
was no
> > type of answer to any type of question about hiking the PCT at all.
> > Someone said that was not the norm, so I guess I'll hang in there. If
> > anyone has an answer to the question posed by the gentleman I quoted, I
> > sure would appreciate an answer."
> >
> > The reason you may not have heard is some people reply directly to the
> > sender. Also, a number of people on the list have begun summer
journeys.
> > And, unfortunately, a number of knowledgeable people have dropped the
list.
> > So I'll add my thoughts and I know you will get more.
> >
> > Normally in July you will run into some patchy snow in the Sierras but
> > nothing too technical. However, this year seems to be a bit more than
> > normal with predictions (at least ones I've seen) having heavy snowpack
on
> > the passes into August. If this is true, a number of the passes and
peaks
> > could pose interesting challenges. True, a number of people should
have
> > passed through so it will be passible without equipment, but being
> > unprepared for mistakes would be ugly.
> >
> > I personally don't rely on my crampons much, only on very cold, icy
snow or
> > on steep slopes. At the time you are going through there should be
steps
> > and, if not, the snow should be soft enough to kick step through.
Crampons
> > would just ball up with soft snow and be of little use. An ice axe,
> > however, is what I would consider a necessity, both for ease in
walking, a
> > cane to get out of postholes, and to self arrest in a fall.
> >
> > However, just carrying an axe does no good if you don't know how to use
it.
> > I was amazed in '96 at the number of thru hikers carrying axes that had
no
> > training and very little idea how to use it. Some were even teaching
> > others bad information while sitting around fires at Kennedy Meadows.
Find
> > a friend who is comfortable teaching or pay the small price to enroll a
day
> > clinic that will teach the skills. If you have trouble finding some
> > consider starting your trip at the north end as either the Yosemite
> > Climbing guides or a number of companies in Mammoth or Bishop may still
be
> > offering classes late (mountaineering) season. Without instruction
you'll
> > just be carrying extra weight that may cause more damage if used
> > inproperly.
> >
> > Good luck and don't let the snow hold you back - it's much more fun!
> > Dan
> >
> > Dan Rufner
> > Outback Adventures Customer Service Manager
> > 9500 Gilman Drive -0004
> > La Jolla, CA 92093-0004
> > (619) 534-0684
> > drufner@ucsd.edu
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:21:40 -0700
> > From: Brick Robbins <brick@ix.netcom.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] fwd BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> >
> > Subject: BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net: Non-member submission from
["JP
> > Const
> > rucoes e Montagens Ltda" <jpcm@merconet.com.br>] Admin request of
type
> > /\bunsu
> > bscribe\b/i at line 1
> >
> > From: "JP Construcoes e Montagens Ltda" <jpcm@merconet.com.br>
> > To: <atml@trailplace.com>, <pct-l@saffron.hack.net>
> > Subject: See y'all
> > Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:32:33 -0300
> >
> > Well, my time in Brasil has come to a close, and I must un\subscribe to
the
> > lists. My departure is a bit early, as my computer crashed today, I
> > actually still have 10 days hear. Any rate thanks to all for the good
> > commentary. Hope to rejoin soon.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Andy Somers
> > Bald Eagle GA->ME '95
> > S=E3o Paulo, Brasil (soon to be Huntsville, AL; USA)
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:49:33 -0700
> > From: Brick Robbins <brick@ix.netcom.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] fwd: BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net: Non-member
submission from [Craig Gif fen <craig@newestindustry.com>]
> >
> > Message 48:
> > >From owner-pct-l@saffron.hack.net Tue May 26 00:26:52 1998
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 00:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: owner-pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> > To: owner-pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> > Subject: BOUNCE pct-l@saffron.hack.net: Non-member submission from
> > [Craig Gif
> > fen <craig@newestindustry.com>]
> >
> > >From owner-pct-l Tue May 26 00:26:50 1998
> > Received: from smtp5.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26])
by
> > saffr
> > on.hack.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27041 for
> > <pct-l@saffron.hack.net>; T
> > ue, 26 May 1998 00:26:49 -0500 (CDT)
> > Received: from cgiffen.teleport.com (pdx82-tcr-06.teleport.com
> > [204.202.169.212]
> > ) by smtp5.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10557 for
> > <pct-l@saffron.h
> > ack.net>; Mon, 25 May 1998 22:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
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> > X-Sender: cgiffen@mail.teleport.com
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> > Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:33:02 -0700
> > To: pct-l@saffron.hack.net
> > From: Craig Giffen <craig@newestindustry.com>
> > Subject: Phone Numbers
> > Mime-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I have most of the PO phone numbers on the PCT planning program. They
> > should be correct, but I haven't checked all of them.
> >
> > http://www.newestindustry.com/pct/pctprogram.html
> >
> > Craig Giffen
> > Portland, OR
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:34:59 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: "Milt Webb, IQ Software" <milt@iqsc.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] Hotel closed I-5 and 138 (fwd)
> >
> > - ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sat, 23 May 98 03:09 EDT
> > From: PCT-L Guest Post <milt@saffron.hack.net>
> > Reply-To: 104031.167@compuserve.com
> > To: milt@iqsc.com
> > Subject: Hotel closed I-5 and 138
> >
> > * Message posted to PCT-L from the National Scenic Trails Website
> > * by our guest Pete Grass <104031.167@compuserve.com>.
> > * Please use <104031.167@compuserve.com> to reply to the sender.
> >
> > East of the town of Wrightwood in So. Cal, there is a road junction
called Cajon Junction where I-5 and 138 cross. The trail guides mention a
hotel at this junction that can be used as the PCT crosses here.
> >
> > Guess what? The hotel is out of business.
> >
> > Make other plans.
> >
> > Pete
> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:35:36 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: "Milt Webb, IQ Software" <milt@iqsc.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] Auga Dulce box drop (fwd)
> >
> > - ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sat, 23 May 98 03:13 EDT
> > From: PCT-L Guest Post <milt@saffron.hack.net>
> > Reply-To: 104031.167@compuserve.com
> > To: milt@iqsc.com
> > Subject: Auga Dulce box drop
> >
> > * Message posted to PCT-L from the National Scenic Trails Website
> > * by our guest Pete Grass <104031.167@compuserve.com>.
> > * Please use <104031.167@compuserve.com> to reply to the sender.
> >
> > I'm part of the support team for a pair of hikers who called in from
Wrightwood tonight. Their next stop is in Auga Dulce and hopefully their
box will be there - somewhere. Rumors are all over the hiker "camp" that
the Century 21 office has been closed for six weeks plus and the fate of
supplies are ???
> >
> > SOme think that the boxes are being held at a general store nearby by
the name of Ray or Richard (?) Canyon Market. Lots of rumors, few facts at
this point.
> >
> > As my box hasn't RTS yet, I'm hopefull it is there for them somewhere.
> >
> > Let's post the right address here...
> >
> > Pete
> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:38:05 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: "Milt Webb, IQ Software" <milt@iqsc.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] JMT weather (fwd)
> >
> > - ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sun, 24 May 98 09:14 EDT
> > From: PCT-L Guest Post <milt@saffron.hack.net>
> > Reply-To: skwright@sure.net
> > To: milt@iqsc.com
> > Subject: JMT weather
> >
> > * Message posted to PCT-L from the National Scenic Trails Website
> > * by our guest Scott Wright <skwright@sure.net>.
> > * Please use <skwright@sure.net> to reply to the sender.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Scott
> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 07:58:34 -0700
> > From: Brick Robbins <brick@ix.netcom.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] Muir Trail Ranch supply drop note
> >
> > http://www.muirtrailranch.com/Backpacker.html
> >
> > Says:
> >
> > >>SPECIAL NOTE FOR 1998 SEASON
> > Due to the extremely heavy snowfall this year, we are uncertain of when
we
> > will be able to open the ranch. Our opening date could be as late as
July,
> > since the road over Kaiser Pass, our only way in, may not be plowed at
its
> > usual time (mid to late May). Please contact us by phone or email for
the
> > latest information regarding our storage of your food cache. <<
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:23:34 EDT
> > From: Charcholla <Charcholla@aol.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] Section F Trail Conditions
> >
> > Hikers,
> >
> > Friends (Cher, Trish, Jan, Jim) and I just returned from day-hiking the
PCT
> > from Robin Bird Spring (Map F6) south to the Cameron Road overpass (Map
F1) on
> > Highway 58 near Mojave. For this part of the PCT, there was snow
visible on
> > the Piute Mountains above us, but none on the trail. Hikers wearing
running
> > shoes should have their boots with them for the miles of rocky road /
trail 14
> > or so miles from the Zond Wind Farms to Golden Oaks Springs.
> >
> > For other section hikers, the access from Kelso Valley up Jawbone
Canyon Road
> > to the PCT was open for 4WD, high-ground-clearance vehicles. We drove
up on
> > Piute Mountain Road and turned south on Jawbone Canyon Road to reach
Robin
> > Bird Spring and the PCT. That section of Jawbone had many ditches from
excess
> > water crossing the road. There is also a "large" rock blocking half the
road
> > (in the middle). We were able to pass with Explorer-width vehicles by
driving
> > with our wheels on top on the road's berm. I doubt that a full-width
vehicle
> > could get around the rock. Ford Expeditions can forget driving around
the
> > rock.
> >
> > When we returned on Monday to retrieve shuttle vehicles, we drove
Jawbone
> > Canyon Road from the south (up Geringer Grade) to reach Robin Bird
Spring.
> > There were many washouts across the road, but we managed by crossing
the
> > washouts on the high side of the road. Crossing some washouts even on
the high
> > side was "marginal," but the low side would have been impossible (some
> > washouts were 3-5 feet deep on the low side of the road).
> >
> > Available water through this 34-mile section is still limited to Golden
Oak
> > Springs and Robin Bird Springs (our trailhead). There was a small creek
with
> > adequate flow (on May 24) about 1/2 mile south of Golden Oak Springs,
but it
> > is insignificant because of its proximity to the springs.
> >
> > North of Robin Bird Springs, hikers should find running streams
(seasonal, I
> > suspect) north as far as Landers Meadow near Piute Mountain Road).
> >
> > Hiker Sightings: For anyone following the progress of Claudette and
Roger
> > Stevens (Washington), we met them on the road just south of the Zond
Wind Farm
> > on Sunday (5/24). About 20 minutes later, we met Jason and Gary
Williams
> > (Orange Co. CA / Yosemite area). Claudette and Roger mentioned that
they had
> > not seen anyone on the trail since leaving Agua Dulce. I assume Jason
and
> > Roger probably caught up with the Stevens at Golden Oak Springs.
> >
> > We also met the Russian family of five just a few minutes south of
Golden Oak
> > Springs.
> >
> > Everyone was doing great; looking healty and happy.
> >
> > Happy hiking,
> > Charlie Jones
> > San Diego
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:18:28 -0700
> > From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] High Sierra Snow (sob)
> >
> > According to the Yosemite back country permit guys, the High Sierra got
TWO
> > FEET of snow last night. They predict a long snowy spring/summer.
Take
> > your ice axe!
> >
> > - --
> > Dave Gomberg mailto:gomberg@wcf.com
> > FormMaestro <http://www.wcf.com>
> > - -----------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 17:51:51 -0600
> > From: Earl Needham <kd5xb@amsat.org>
> > Subject: RE: [pct-l] Auga Dulce box drop
> >
> > I did a quick internet search for Ray Canyon Market, Richard
Canyon
> > Market, Rich Canyon Market, and just Canyon Market, all in California.
> > Only the last try produced any results, but it did include one listing
in
> > Agua Dulce. Here are the results. I tried to call tonight to see if
> > that's the place and if they are keeping the boxes, but I got a modem
tone
> > at the listed number.
> >
> > Also, here's the link to the page giving the phone number and
address.
> > Maps and directions are also available there.
> >
> >
http://http://switchboard.mapquest.com/sb/mqcustomconnect?iconid=3D11&var61=
> > =3Dww
> >
w3.switchboard.com&var44=3DName&var41=3D1&MEM=3D1&lat=3D344937&lng=3D-118326
=
> > 0&var1=3DCan
> >
yon+Market&var5=3D33301+Agua+Dulce+Canyon+Rd&var7=3DAgua+Dulce&var8=3DCA&var
=
> > 6=3D9135
> > 0-4640&var2=3D(805)268-8164&var34=3D|=EA=EF
> >
> > Earl
> >
> > Canyon Market 33301 Agua Dulce Canyon Rd, Agua Dulce, CA 91350-4640
> > Phone: (805)268-8164 <Picture: Map> <Picture: Directions to>
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Sat, 23 May 98 03:13 EDT
> > > From: PCT-L Guest Post <milt@saffron.hack.net>
> > > Reply-To: 104031.167@compuserve.com
> > > To: milt@iqsc.com
> > > Subject: Auga Dulce box drop
> > >=20
> > > * Message posted to PCT-L from the National Scenic Trails Website
> > > * by our guest Pete Grass <104031.167@compuserve.com>.
> > > * Please use <104031.167@compuserve.com> to reply to the sender.
> > >=20
> > > I'm part of the support team for a pair of hikers who called in from
> > > Wrightwood tonight. Their next stop is in Auga Dulce and hopefully
their
> > > box will be there - somewhere. Rumors are all over the hiker "camp"
that
> > > the Century 21 office has been closed for six weeks plus and the fate
of
> > > supplies are ???
> > >=20
> > > SOme think that the boxes are being held at a general store nearby by
the
> > > name of Ray or Richard (?) Canyon Market. Lots of rumors, few facts
at
> > > this point.
> > >=20
> > > As my box hasn't RTS yet, I'm hopefull it is there for them
somewhere. =20
> > >=20
> > > Let's post the right address here...
> > >=20
> > > Pete
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:50:37 -0700
> > From: Ted Williams <TedWi@Attachmate.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] TednDeb - Cascades in May
> >
> > Well, we survived our 3 night(Fri,Sat,Sun), 3 day (Sat,Sun,Mon) trial
in
> > the Cascades. Although we didn't get out to the PCT (our hiking buddies
> > were leery of the snow), our trip was very educational. We set
personal
> > bests for distance travel on one trip, 35+ miles! It was a bit short
of
> > our goal, but we were still pleased.
> >
> > First, a lightweight tent is not the plan. Sunday night it POURED for
> > our last our on the trail. We were soaked! And there wasn't enough
> > room to effectively dry off in the microscopic vestibule. So we ended
> > up getting the inside of the tent a bit wet. Pitching our tent went
all
> > right, and we stayed plenty warm, but we weren't able to get anything
to
> > dry out. Our lightweight tent (Kelty Zen, similar to the flashlight by
> > SD) has a waterPROOF fly, so we didn't get a lot of ventilation, even
> > with the door wide open. Hence, nothing inside our tent or under the
> > fly dried out at all. Our sleeping bag (synthetic fill) had been
> > slowing capturing moisture, and was now noticeably damp, even though we
> > had been very careful to keep it dry. Despite being a bit clammy, it
> > was definitely warm. With the moisture so high in the ten, the wall of
> > the tent were finally getting damp, even though they weren't touching
> > the fly. It was just too moist in our tent. We both agreed that a
open
> > air tarp, be it colder, would have been the better choice (yes, we do
> > have experience with pitching a tarp). Bottom line: the three extra
> > pounds of the ten vs. the tarp just aren't worth it in rainy weather.
> > Although the tent will be our shelter of choice in bug country.
> >
> > Our food was jammin'!!!!!! Most everything was tasty and easy. The
> > pretzels were are good source of sodium, but my wife didn't think they
> > provided much energy. Our ZipLoc cooking worked like a charm (as
> > always). The crackers didn't fair too well by the third day. Anyone
> > have some suggestions as to how to preserve crackers in the pack? For
> > those of you who have our food list, we went with the Stuffing, Mashed
> > Potatoes, and Mac & Cheese days, minus the Jerky and Logan Bread.
> >
> > By Sunday our shoes were soaking wet, but our feet held up pretty well.
> > My feet, in running shoes, poly liners, and rag wool socks, were fine.
> > Much to my amazement, I didn't develop a single blister! I did notice
> > some SERIOUS swelling Tues A.M. when I put on my regular shoes, WOW!
My
> > wife Deb struggled to keep her feet as dry as possible, which caused
her
> > tremendous grief. Her hiking sandals (Chaos, or something) worked
great
> > when dry, but caused blisters when her feet were wet. She also had
some
> > problems with her poly liners bunching up in her fabric boots (Vasque).
> > She came home with two small blisters.
> >
> > We had a bit of trouble getting everything in our pack and maintaining
> > some sort of organization. The food was a bit bulkier that I thought
it
> > would be. The tent was a new acquisition, and too up quite a bit more
> > room that the tarp. I did experience some upper back strain because my
> > pack (arcteryx Bora 40 ~ 3200 ci) wasn't riding properly. I'm not sure
> > if it was overloaded, or the up and down of the trail were straining my
> > back, or if it was from the increased hours lugging the thing around.
I
> > didn't weigh it (oops), but it seemed to weight around 40 lbs. My
> > training weight has been about 30-35 lbs. My wife had no problems with
> > her REI pack (1500ci). It was pretty heavy at 25 lbs, but she was
> > carrying some extra junk with her. Man, I thought we were doing really
> > well on weight...NOT!
> >
> > I only have one thing to say about hygiene, bald is beautiful :)
> >
> > The ranger station at North Bend (near Snoqualmie) said that the trails
> > were snowbound at 3100. We got up over 3000 ft and didn't see a trace
> > of snow. According to the Snotel Sites, the snow is still below
normal,
> > and should be clear a week or two early this year. My wife has the
next
> > two weeks off, so hopefully she will have a chance to check out the
> > trail in person.
> >
> > My sister promised to have our web site up and running before we leave
> > June 8th, so keep your eyes to the CPU, and we'll post the URL as soon
> > as it is available.
> >
> > I'm so excited I could just pee!!!
> >
> > TednDeb
> > Canada to Mexico 1998
> >
> >
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:53:24 -0700
> > From: Ted Williams <TedWi@Attachmate.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] Seattlites - PCT at Snoqualmie
> >
> > Are there any hikers who would like to hike from Snoqualmie this coming
> > weekend? We're hoping to hike 30 miles total Sat & Sun.
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