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[pct-l] Class of 05 thru VS Seciton attitude
This "keeping record" sort of thing reminded me of some attitudes that I met on the trail the past two years when I was doing Wash or OR. On both section hikes I was going against the grain and was running into many THRU hikers. I ran into MANY friendly people and I looked and smelled like a thru hiker. I can remember a few who were FRIENDLY to a point but as soon as I let them know I was "JUST a SECTION HIKER" there face would change and they would just keep on hiking on - basically coppping me an attitude. Some would try to convinvce me to become one of "them" and be a thru hiker - I would have to try to convince them why I was HMOH. Trust me MANY were not this WAY. I can remember one couple that I met near Crater Lake in 05 that pulled a reverse --- when I said I was "just a Section hiker" ....... he was so impressed and even engaged with me more. Truly emphasizing the HYOH mentality with out me needing to go through the litany of why I HMOH. Pretty COOL attitude instead
of the hierarchy of I am better than you attitude that I get sometimes. OR the "hikerism" against section hikers, or people who do not complete, or people who are NOT ultra lite, or people who do carry an ice axe, or people who don't sleep under a tarp tent .......... "hikerism" is used when someone does not conform . This runs against the grain of BEING FREE and escaping FROM THE WORLD that I strive for when I hike my hike.
SB
M A <raeba@lycos.com> wrote:
I agree too. I, personally, think that the keeping records is not likely to work...in the long run. Again (to me) it kind of is taking away from the raw beauty of the the hiking - almost adding a commercial edge to it. I think the HYOH over=shadows it, if one holds to HYOH philosophy. But everyone is entitled to their own ideas and viewpoints. I know of others who don't want anything to do with the 'organized' hype, cliques, and what some believe is organization.
The numbers may be going up, in part, due to seeking them (i.e. keeping closer tabs). Don't know...don't really care. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I just feel that some of this stuff just makes some sort of commercial edge on the PCT (pardon the redundancy). This breeds people who try to position themselves as 'somebody' important or special with regard to the PCT -- AND NOT ONE PERSON IS OVER THE OTHER.
This year's newbie is just as significant as any other to me. Do I have close friends, yes, but I just don't like the ranking and merit badge mentality. Believe me, this is not coming from someone who feels jealous by any stretch - that would be impossible with my philosophy and respect for each person's priveledge and standing on the trail. I admire all who will take to the trail in a respectful manner, and who challenge their minds and bodies........
Just my thoughts. You may certainly disagree and it won't me move a bit. I'm sure some of you will, but that's life. The trail is mine and yours. Anyone can build a club or association around it and do what they please (within the law).
Ciao
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Powers"
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Class of 05 thru-hike completion rate?
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 22:18:05 -0800
>
>
> they probably didn't sign the registers.
>
> BTW I agree with L-Rod, who cares if anyone completes the trail or
> not.The real point is did they enjoy their hike. I just like to
> know anonymous numbers - How many hikers hiked the PCT in 2000 vs
> in 2001, 2002, 2003? I think the numbers are going up, and the
> numbers in Yogi's post kind of indicates that.
>
> Ken
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "M A"
> To: "Ken Powers"
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Class of 05 thru-hike completion rate?
>
>
> I know of several who don't want to be listed... I'm sure others
> do too. So, there must be so many more who have successfully
> completed the trail.
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Powers"
> > To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Class of 05 thru-hike completion rate?
> > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 17:13:29 -0800
> >
> >
> > On the other hand it is the only measure we have to compare one
> > year to another. Assuming that we miss a similar percentage each
> > year we can still gauge one year against the others.
> >
> > In 2000 I got to work on the data. They (Meadow Ed, Bob Norton, &
> > others) gave me the names and dates from several registers along
> > the PCT. It was interesting trying to match naes with mispellings,
> > trailnames to real names, changed trailnames, & lots of day hikers
> > thown in. In a few cases you could pick out flip-floppers because
> > of the dates. It was an interesting exercise.
> >
> > Ken
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "dsaufley"
> > To: "'David Plotnikoff'" ;
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:54 PM
> > Subject: RE: [pct-l] Class of 05 thru-hike completion rate?
> >
> >
> > > Just an FYI -- Puck is no longer with the PCTA. There's a very nice > lady
> > > named Jean there now. I think 2005 finishers would be very difficult to
> > > sort out. There is a Yahoo group for the 2005 hikers, but their > contacts
> > > are only as comprehensive as, well, their contacts.
> > >
> > > Personal observation: trying to count finishers is a slippery slope > with
> > > big rocks below.
> > >
> > > L-Rod
> >
> >
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