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[pct-l] Don't cook foods in plastic!
hey I don;t know, but that's what they told us... I carried my water in a
platy bags... Just a heads up for you all... I know you have to use it, but
hey, just don;t do the hot liquids thing in plastic and you are kosher...
And yes actually leather would be better I guess. Titanium- I have no idea
about it being bad for you... haven't heard anything
Merrrrryyyyy xmas - ho ho ho
>From: Brad Evergreen <bradevergreendvm@yahoo.com>
>To: Joseph Niemiec <whitethunder10@hotmail.com>, csxii@schizoaffective.org,
> jeffmoorehead1@cox.net
>CC: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Don't cook foods in plastic!
>Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:05:10 -0800 (PST)
>
>What is the recommended water carrying device then if plastics and Aluminum
>are out? Cow bladders or wood? I have not seen a Titanium water bottle
>but it is probably just a matter of time before it is linked to something
>bad. Brad
>
>Joseph Niemiec <whitethunder10@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi folks,
>
>I just graduated form college and in an environmental class there I learned
>about toxic materials and what not... I learned alot about plastic
>leaching..
>
>It is when water sits in plasitc too long, like in plastic soda bottles and
>stuff [luckily for me (big milk drinker) the milk bottles aren't as bad,
>becuase they don;t have PVC in them] - anyway any bottles based on PVC
>leach nasty cancer causing materials into your food...
>
>This is the worst when you warm plastic up. Freezing it slows down the
>process. So when you put hot water in your Nalgene bottles and drink it -
>that is really bad for you because nalgene bottles are PVC heavy... JUst
>letting water sit in a nalgene bottle is bad enough... I perosnally don;t
>use nalgene bottles...
>
>THis goes for micro-waving things also. The microwaves and the heat cause
>plastic to leach PVC's into the food or liquid. The government knows about
>this and it is why in most states you can;t have PVC pipes used as
>incomming
>water supply - only outgoing.
>
>There are specific recycle #'s that are better and worse for this
>leaching... Milk jugs are teh best, I think that is a #2 - the worst is all
>those soda bottles and bottles of water you get at the store. and All those
>plastic bags and plastic zip lock containers - all that cheap plastic crap.
>
>Another example is that new car smell - plastic does an off gassing thing
>in
>the airt and that is waht you are smelling in a new car... but after it
>matures and stops off-gasing, it is safer to be in.
>
>So, I'm just giving all yall the warning becuase I know backpacking is
>heavy
>into plastic... I to used platy bags, but I never warmed stuff up on
>purpose...
>
>And and about aluminum hiking pots, they leach alumnium into food- and
>aluminum has be connected to alzheimers (spelling) disease. So just use the
>titanium - I haven;t heard about anything bad about that. I heard the US
>army won;t even allow its soliders to use aluminum pots - even though they
>are cheaper and lighter than stainless steel. They still make them use the
>stainless steel...
>
>I'm just keep'in it real for the brother-man and the sista-woman....
>
>Mouse
>www.trailjournals.com/joeniemiec
>
>ps- I also have some new for you about soy/brussel sprouts too - if you eat
>a ton of it - back off! if you want to know more let me know...
>
> >From: csxii@schizoaffective.org
> >To: "Jeff Moorehead"
> >CC: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> >Subject: Re: [pct-l] Titanium pot scorching
> >Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:23:17 -0800
> >
> >
> >Forget simmering with your stove and save fuel by "simmering" in an
> >insulated container. Boil the water, add the food then insulate your
> >pot or pour the mix into an insulated container. I use a ziplock
> >container with a screw on lid. I insulated it with bubble wrap. I
> >can simmer my food while I hike with this set up.
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:20:52 -0800, "Jeff Moorehead"
> > had this to say:
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> > >I'm trying to develop a meal system based on rehydrating a dinner and
> >then
> > >simply heating up the mixture. The savings in time, fuel, and trail
> >effort
> > >should be well worth the effort of cooking, dehydrating, and vacuum
> > >packaging these meals now. I am trying each dish out by rehydrating and
> > >heating it up on my alcohol stove, but I am having a hard time avoiding
> >the
> > >typical scorching that comes from use of titanium pots. It scorches so
> > >easily I am thinking of using something like a scorching pad. Given how
> >hard
> > >it is to make an alcohol stove truly simmer, has anyone managed to
>solve
> >the
> > >scorching problem?
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