[pct-l] Pack weight to body weight ratio...

[tahoe.cat at verizon.net (Cathy)]

Now what I heard was "When confused and in doubt, run in circles scream and
shout.  If I was in doubt I'd probably take it with me. That's probably why
my pack weighs in at 40lbs without food and water. My back sure hurts but
I'm trying to lighten the load.      Ground Pounder Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sharon & Chuck Chelin" <chelin@teleport.com>
To: <dsaufley@sprynet.com>; "Brett" <blisterfree@isp01.net>; "Kraig Mottar"
<kraig.mottar@verizon.net>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [pct-l] Pack weight to body weight ratio...


> Good afternoon, Donna,
>
> I think "Pack Gong Night" is a good idea, and I believe it still exist,
only
> now it is called "PCT-L".  With any luck, and a little participation,
newer
> hikers can learn-before-they-burn and not even start out with one of
> everything shown in the REI catalogue, or all those gifts that Aunt Tilly
is
> convinced every "outdoorsy" person simply must have.  Repeat after me:
> "When in doubt, leave it out."
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <dsaufley@sprynet.com>
> To: "Brett" <blisterfree@isp01.net>; "Kraig Mottar"
> <kraig.mottar@verizon.net>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [pct-l] Pack weight to body weight ratio...
>
>
> > My observation is that after 400+ miles, most overloaded hikers are
> desperately looking for ways to lower their pack weight.  The overflowing
> hiker boxes that are stored in our garage are a testimony to this
> phenomenon.
> >
> > In 1997 (our first year hosting) the hikers spoke about "Pack Gong
Night"
> at Idyllwild.  It basically consisted of hikers sitting around in a
circle,
> displaying the contents of their packs, and having to justify their
useless
> and redundant items to the collective group, and getting the thumbs up or
> down on keeping the item.  Of course, I don't know how many adhered to the
> whim of the mob, but I'm sure it helped a few lighten up their loads.
> Haven't heard of this game in recent years, but we've seen plenty of
> counselling going on here, along with major divestitures and new
purchases.
> >
> > -=Donna Saufley=-
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brett <blisterfree@isp01.net>
> > Sent: Jan 7, 2005 5:15 PM
> > To: Kraig Mottar <kraig.mottar@verizon.net>,
pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: Re: [pct-l] Pack weight to body weight ratio...
> >
> > Better yet, _decrease_ your packweight as your fitness
> > increases. The more fit you become, the more mileage per day
> > you may want to hike. A lower packweight will translate to
> > higher daily mileages for little or no additional effort.
> > And because you will gain the ability to hike higher daily
> > mileages, your food weight between town stops - and your
> > water weight between sources - will decrease accordingly.
> >
> > The lighter you go, the more you can lighten further. Don't
> > fall into the trap of experience/fitness equating with a
> > higher packweight. It's a fool's bravado.
> >
> > - blisterfree
> >
> >
> >
> > > You may be right. Though, for long trips, more weight will
> > > be neccessary. Though, as time goes on and I get into
> > > better shape, more weight might be a challenge. I will
> > > probably do as you say, and start with 20 lbs and increase
> > > as my fitness increases.
> > >
> > > Happy trails,
> > >
> > > Kraig
> > >
> >
> >
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