[pct-l] agreed

[whitethunder10 at hotmail.com (Joseph Niemiec)]

look at today's headlines -- Bush doing another great environmental serivce 
for our great nation...  (sarcasm)

www.nytimes.com/todaysheadlines

the story about the forest service...

Mouse


>From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
>To: "Joseph Niemiec" 
<whitethunder10@hotmail.com>,<PCT@DelNorteResort.Com>,<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Subject: RE: [BULK] - RE: [pct-l] Independent Hiking & Trail Angels
>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:36:30 -0800
>
>Scratching a message in the dirt to someone a day behind you = $0
>Pressing sticks into the trail to message someone a couple days behind
>you = $0
>Sharpening a stick (with your pound and a half K-bar, Bill!) and pinning
>a note onto a post at trailhead = $0 (weight of said K-bar excluded)
>Saving that $5 at Echo Lake to spend on an Oilcan = Priceless!
>
>
>
>M i c h a e l   S a e n z
>McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
>A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
>w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
>[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Joseph
>Niemiec
>Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 8:53 AM
>To: PCT@DelNorteResort.Com; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: [BULK] - RE: [pct-l] Independent Hiking & Trail Angels
>
>I have to admit though, $5 at Echo lake to post a message to another
>hiker on their outdoor pegboard?  Weak.
>
>And VVR - reselling hiker box food and used insoles?  double weak...
>
>Just remember that in general these rules apply but their are the the
>places looking to rip you off too!
>Especially VVR...
>
>Trail Angels - Awesome! (unweak)
>
>Mouse
>
>>From: "PCT List" 
<PCT@DelNorteResort.Com>
>>To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>>Subject: [pct-l] Independent Hiking & Trail Angels
>>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:27:48 -0800 >
>>2 points I want to make up front:
>>
>>* Your thru-hike is an INDEPENDENT undertaking.
>>
>>* Gathering a list of trail angels names & phone numbers 
from
>Campo to Manning, >should not be an integral part of pre-hike
>planning.
>>
>>Last summer I was forced to read journals instead of hiking, by 
my
>own decision.
>>Of course, they were ALL entertaining. :) One shameless CDT 
journal
>I read briefly should >have been named, "Leeching from 
Glacier
>to Gila: a thru-hikers guide".
>>
>>IMHO, "a thru-hike is an independent venture to be 
shared with
>others, not for others >to endure". Others may not share 
your
>enthusiasm for YOUR hike.
>>
>>I've heard a number of complaints about the PO in Echo Lake. 
Here's
>a
>tip: plan your
>>visit around their business hours, not what's convenient for 
YOUR
>hike.
>Be patient with
>>them, YOUR needs do not come first. It's a busy place, they have
>other customers as >well. Knocking on PO doors (or any business)
>after hours is poor planning on your part, >sets a very bad 
precedent
>and reflects very badly on the entire hiking community.
>>
>>Trail Angels and the 'magic' they provide are truly a luxury. 
They
>are instigators of >"timely good fortune".
>>
>>You have no right to ask of others what you are capable of 
obtaining
>yourself. Trail Angels >are not provided as a convenience with 
your
>permit. If you abuse this priveledge, it will >disappear. If you 
ask
>a stranger for help, doesn't it seem logical to exhaust all of your
>>options first?
>>
>>When you think of Trail Angels, you have to think of the 
Saufley's.
>Had I NOT camped on >their lawn, had I NOT let Donna do my 
laundry, I
>would have felt guilty, like I was disrespecting >a long held
>tradition. :) With that said, to see some people stay for days was
>beyond my >comprehension. Maybe everyone is ok with that, but I
>didn't get it (my issues).
>>
>>It's YOUR hike. Before you burden someone with your adventure, 
ask
>yourself if this is really necessary.
>>
>>One final stone to throw. How about a thru-hiker Code of 
Conduct? A
>list of thou shall and thou shall nots?
>>Something everyone can carry with them along the 
trail....assuming
>it's not to, um, heavy. ;) > >Scott > >
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