[BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Lunar Solo tent - condensation

[msaenz at mve-architects.com (Mike Saenz)]

I'd agree with #1.
#2, however, conflicts with #1- in that- if you have a very well
ventilated tent and the temps don't get too low, you won't condensate.
#5: NOW I know why I always get wet when I pitch my tent IN a lake...
#7- As most of y'all know, I have a TNF Slickrock. Probably the most
well ventilated tent I've seen. Not great in windy conditions, cuz the
side vents behind it's vestivbule wings scoop the wind and drive it
inside...but I NEVER get condesation inside this tent!


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McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Marshall
Karon
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:50 PM
To: Brett; metam01@earthlink.net; pct-l
Subject: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Lunar Solo tent - condensation

Thanks for the explanation.

I used the Europa II this summer in Colorado. My wife used the Tarptent
in the Sierras. We both had some condensation at times. Some things we
learned:

1) No tent is perfect under all conditions. You will get condensation
some time. Having sleeping bags with a water resistant shell is a good
idea.

2) Don't camp in a meadow or next to a stream unless you are high and
have lots of wind. Otherwise, you will be sure to have lots of
condensation.

3) Don't stay in a frozen tent waiting for the sun to defrost it. It
will and the huge amount of moisture will drip onto you.

4) When a large amount of moisture does start to roll down the top and
hits the mesh in the Europa II, it does drip straight down onto whatever
is below - and that was me.

5) Don't pitch your tent in a lake (or a place that will become a lake).

Water can force its way in from the bottom.

6) Keep the tent open as much as possible - that normally means don't
use a vestibule closed up.

7) Every tent will have moisture problems if there isn't enough breeze. 
Double wall tents will normally never drip into the living space; single
wall tents could depending on the design. If the tent is wet when taken
down, everything will probably get wet.

8) Silnylon tents dry amazingly fast. In 10 minutes my tent was normally
dry.

I never needed to use the tent in day after day of wet weather. I always
had time to dry the tent daily. I would be hesitant to use a single wall
tent if I knew I would have many back to back days of rain. But, I'm a
wimp - I would probably bail in those conditions.

Marshall Karon
Portland, OR
m.karon@comcast.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett" <blisterfree@isp01.net>
To: <metam01@earthlink.net>; "pct-l" <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lunar Solo tent


> Actually, my choice of words wasn't the best. Guttering could also
imply 
> an evacuation of water from the tent's interior, but my concern was
that 
> the mesh intersecting with the canopy could create a drip-line as
moisture 
> rolls down the interior of the canopy, causing that water to land on
the 
> tent's floor. Ron says it shouldn't be a real concern, given the
tent's 
> overall shape and the orientation of the sleep area.
>
> - blisterfree
>
>>
>> Now I can learn something.  What is a guttering effect?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Warner Springs Monty
>>
>
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