[pct-l] Dress Me Up & Pack Me Out - Sleeping Bag/System

[metam01 at earthlink.net (Monty Tam)]

Jeff
I like the bivy.

Vapor Barrier Liners?  I hope someone else posts on this. What are they?

My girlfriend bullied me into taking a silk liner with a new bag once.  I
got drenched in condensation. I mean Drenched.
Maybe this was meant for colder weather.  I sent it home.  We saved $50
bucks.  This probably isn't what you're refering to.

What's the answer out there.

Warner Springs Monty



> [Original Message]
> From: Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>
> To: <metam01@earthlink.net>
> Date: 10/26/2004 12:22:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dress Me Up & Pack Me Out - Sleeping Bag/System
>
> Hey Thanks Monty for the info-- I checked out both sites you recommended.
I 
> think I might go for the Equinox Bivy for the reasons you gave. One other 
> question that you might know, what about Vapor Barrier Liners?-- they
claim 
> to add 5 degrees to the bag. I've heard they are only for subzero 
> conditions. Do you know about this?
>  Thanks again for the info...
>  Jeff
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Monty Tam" <metam01@earthlink.net>
> To: "Jeff Moorehead" <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dress Me Up & Pack Me Out - Sleeping Bag/System
>
>
> > Good question Jeff
> > I used mine, Equinox, through the high Sierras with a Phantom 32. 
Without
> > it I felt a little air flow.  With it I was much warmer than freezing
> > friends with 20's.  At Sonora Pass I switched to a Phantom 45, about 6
> > ounces less, and a tarp instead of a tent. (I dropped to a nine pound
base
> > weight.)  I used the bivy for it's primary purpose, as a low weight
> > substitute for a ground sheet.  I slept on my tarp most of the time;
under
> > the tarp when it rained.  The bivy caught the rain spray.  And I was
warm
> > enough on some very cold nights in Early September in Southern Oregon.
> > Cold enough to start a small fire in the morning.
> >
> >
> > Before I got back on the trail in Sonora, I posted a question right here
> > about using a 45 degree bag going north.  One posting said it can get
real
> > cold in Oregon (Kind of a No).  One said He doesn't worry about he has
an
> > Equinox Bivy Cover that adds a lot of extra warmth.  Works. I just 
> > happened
> > to be using one.  I think I was the ONLY one using one on the PCT.
> > My main reason for using it was as an lightweight groundcloth and 
> > rainspray
> > protection. The warmth is a big plus to also cut sleeping bag weight.
> >
> > Equinox Bivy Cover
> > http://www.backcountrygear.com/catalog/tentdetail.cfm/EQ3000
> >
> > There's another similar product out there for about half the price. 
It's
> > designed  more so as a groundcloth and rain-splash and probably better
for
> > that than the Equinox.  It's designed and hand made by an AT /PCT
> > thru-hiker named Carol "Brawny" Wellman who own Trailquest.  (and also
> > helped me with tons of PCT thru-hike advise last Spring.  Very
impressive
> > person, and author)
> >
> > http://www.trailquest.net/dlgcsilfgs.html
> >
> > Warner Springs Monty
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Jeff Moorehead <jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>
> >> To: pct mailing list <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> >> Date: 10/25/2004 1:43:09 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dress Me Up & Pack Me Out - Sleeping Bag/System
> >>
> >>
> >>  Re:Sleeping Bag/System
> >> So I got the Marmot Hydrogen (not the Helium). Helium generates much
heat
> >> from the fusion of 2 hydrogen atoms, so I am assuming this bag is
warmer
> >> than the Hydrogen. The hydrogen of course has less atomic weight than
> >> helium. But my question is whether these Silnylon bag covers (which
weigh
> >> about 5 oz.) actually add significant warmth to the bags. Not from
> > thernal
> >> insulation, but from cutting heat loss to convective drafts. Anybody
> > tried
> >> these things?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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