[pct-l] Frogg Toggs

[richardlcox at gmail.com (Richard Cox)]

I had some soaking problems with my toggs as well, when I was several
days in a row in the rain.  I solved the chafing problem for the whole
trail by wearing lycra shorts the whole hike. The only time I had a
chafing problem was when I didn't wear my toggs over them in the rain
and the got soaked continually. At that point I put them on and within
about 10 minutes they dried enough to resume their protective nature.
So even damp it worked.

Overall I liked to the toggs for weight, and durability - but they did
loose their real waterproofness quickly. Also toward the end I
accidently dried them with heat which was not recommended and I think
they lost more water shedding then. :(

I am thinking about going the Pancho route and trying to use it as a
double for a ground sheet - which is what Bandanna raves about now.
I'll let you all know how that goes when I try it.

-The One
PCT2003
Vote early, vote often. ;)



On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:23:37 -0700 (PDT), Shutterbug steiner
<shutterbugg313@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Of my 15 days section hike on the PCT in the WA Cascades I was in a torrential downpour for at least 5 of those days and the another five drying out and only 5 gorgous days.  I was fairly pleased with the Frogg Toggs but I wore very little underneath the Toggs that could get wet.  As long as I kept moving I stayed warm and my clothes and bag stayed dry under a few layers of plastic in my pack.  My only problem with this method was chaffing in the crotch and I solved that very painfully with duct tape.  My only other problem was that the Toggs are less durable ----- when trying to avoid high stream crossing I rerouted on other trails that were not up to PCT standards and this at times resembled brush cutting rather than hiking.  If it was a colder rain that required layering I am not confident that anything let along the TOGGS would have kept the insulating layer dry.
> 
> Duane
> 
> Marge Prothman <marge@prothman.org> wrote:
> You wrote:
> The Frogg Toggs failed miserably. We were both soaked from the waste down
> and in the arms. Has anyone else had this experience or any advice to offer
> on products that do work!......
> 
> Hi There,
> I am a firm believer in Frogg Toggs and yes I have been wet two times while
> wearing them in complete downpours.
> 
> The first was the arms and they became wet from rain running back up the
> inside of my arms.
> Every time I lifted my arm to plant my pole the water seeped in under my
> Frogg Toggs from the wrist. I now have a waterproof glove that has a
> gauntlet that comes up over the arm of the Frogg Toggs, no more wet arms.
> 
> My pants also got very wet from, again water coming in from the bottom and
> soaking my long hiking pants. Now I make sure my long pants do not act as a
> wick.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Cheers,
> Marge [The Old Gal]
> http://www.prothman.org/marge
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of JoPH
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:40 PM
> To: Pct-L@Mailman.Backcountry.Net
> Subject: [pct-l] California Section L-Donner to Sierra City
> 
> Seeing all the rain in So. Cal, I thought I'd add my 2 cents re No. Cal. My
> husband and I hiked Donner to Sierra City Sat and Sunday. We went to sleep
> in fire haze near the trail head Fri. night-- hiked on glorious windswept
> ridges Saturday and slept atop one Sat. night. Listened to the wind howl all
> night and then the rain started (we were at 8200 feet). Woke up in the rain
> and hiked in to the trailhead at highway 49 by mid afternoon, just ahead of
> when the rain went from gentle mist/rain to downpour. Friends took us back
> to our car at Donner Summit, which we found under several inches of snow! So
> we were very happy to do this last No. Cal section just in the nick of time
> (fair-weather hikers-we). The mountains were glorious in yellow, brown and
> red and of course, the never ending green of the firs and pines.
> 
> Just one question though-- part of this trip was to give our rain gear,
> Frogg Toggs, a go to see how they would do. Now, all I've read on this list
> serve is good stuff about Frogg Toggs, and I have to tell you, if we weren't
> planning to come in Sunday, we would have been in trouble. The Frogg Toggs
> failed miserably. We were both soaked from the waste down and in the arms.
> Has anyone else had this experience or any advice to offer on products that
> do work! We used the Frogg Toggs in So. Cal for a two week section trip in
> the spring and they seemed to be o.k. for the brief periods of rain we had,
> but not for all-day rain-- it just seeped through.
> 
> BTW--I too am interested in Winter section hikes in So. Cal. Also interested
> in coordinating transportation (car at either end etc). Anyone interested in
> this can contact me off list.
> 
> Thanks, Jo
> 
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