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[pct-l] Frogg Toggs



Of my 15 days section hike on the PCT in the WA Cascades I was in a torrential downpour for at least 5 of those days and the another five drying out and only 5 gorgous days.  I was fairly pleased with the Frogg Toggs but I wore very little underneath the Toggs that could get wet.  As long as I kept moving I stayed warm and my clothes and bag stayed dry under a few layers of plastic in my pack.  My only problem with this method was chaffing in the crotch and I solved that very painfully with duct tape.  My only other problem was that the Toggs are less durable ----- when trying to avoid high stream crossing I rerouted on other trails that were not up to PCT standards and this at times resembled brush cutting rather than hiking.  If it was a colder rain that required layering I am not confident that anything let along the TOGGS would have kept the insulating layer dry.
 
Duane

Marge Prothman <marge@prothman.org> wrote:
You wrote:
The Frogg Toggs failed miserably. We were both soaked from the waste down
and in the arms. Has anyone else had this experience or any advice to offer
on products that do work!......

Hi There,
I am a firm believer in Frogg Toggs and yes I have been wet two times while
wearing them in complete downpours. 

The first was the arms and they became wet from rain running back up the
inside of my arms.
Every time I lifted my arm to plant my pole the water seeped in under my
Frogg Toggs from the wrist. I now have a waterproof glove that has a
gauntlet that comes up over the arm of the Frogg Toggs, no more wet arms.

My pants also got very wet from, again water coming in from the bottom and
soaking my long hiking pants. Now I make sure my long pants do not act as a
wick. 

Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Marge [The Old Gal]
http://www.prothman.org/marge 

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of JoPH
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:40 PM
To: Pct-L@Mailman.Backcountry.Net
Subject: [pct-l] California Section L-Donner to Sierra City


Seeing all the rain in So. Cal, I thought I'd add my 2 cents re No. Cal. My
husband and I hiked Donner to Sierra City Sat and Sunday. We went to sleep
in fire haze near the trail head Fri. night-- hiked on glorious windswept
ridges Saturday and slept atop one Sat. night. Listened to the wind howl all
night and then the rain started (we were at 8200 feet). Woke up in the rain
and hiked in to the trailhead at highway 49 by mid afternoon, just ahead of
when the rain went from gentle mist/rain to downpour. Friends took us back
to our car at Donner Summit, which we found under several inches of snow! So
we were very happy to do this last No. Cal section just in the nick of time
(fair-weather hikers-we). The mountains were glorious in yellow, brown and
red and of course, the never ending green of the firs and pines.

Just one question though-- part of this trip was to give our rain gear,
Frogg Toggs, a go to see how they would do. Now, all I've read on this list
serve is good stuff about Frogg Toggs, and I have to tell you, if we weren't
planning to come in Sunday, we would have been in trouble. The Frogg Toggs
failed miserably. We were both soaked from the waste down and in the arms.
Has anyone else had this experience or any advice to offer on products that
do work! We used the Frogg Toggs in So. Cal for a two week section trip in
the spring and they seemed to be o.k. for the brief periods of rain we had,
but not for all-day rain-- it just seeped through.

BTW--I too am interested in Winter section hikes in So. Cal. Also interested
in coordinating transportation (car at either end etc). Anyone interested in
this can contact me off list.

Thanks, Jo

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