[pct-l] Where would YOU like to find a water cache?

[msaenz at mve-architects.com (Mike Saenz)]

Sounds like the "Dreaded San Felipe Hills" are covered regarding water caches! Good news as I'm heading through these soon.

So let me poll y'all:

Where do you feel would be the best location for a water cache?

I've gotten a lot of enthusiastic responses from the geocaching community about helping to keep a water cache supplied!
I've even stirred some interest in a couple of geocachers to do the PCT!

Let me know where a location would best serve us as we head out this year!

M i c h a e l   S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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 -----Original Message-----
From: 	AsABat [mailto:AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net] 
Sent:	Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:28 PM
To:	Mike Saenz
Subject:	Re: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat

I'm not sure anything is needed there. There are caches at Lucky 5,
Scissors, and 3rd Gate. Between Lucky 5 and Scissors there's a CDF water
tank at Rodriguez Truck Trail that usually has water. You might try
contacting the Trail Ratz that built the chairs or Charlie Jones. Setting up
a cache is easy. Keeping it maintained is the hard part. Lucky 5 is a bit of
a hike from the road. 3rd Gate in the San Felipes is a long dirt road and a
1-1/2 mile hike up hill. The even bigger problem is hikers relying on them
(not a good idea) only to find the cache empty.

Good luck on the continuous section hikes. There's a couple other guys doing
the same - Crazy Old Scout Ben Holmes is one, but he hasn't seem to been on
the trail much. I do them when I can. Section E was a wonderful time during
New Years weekend 2003, and Section O was quiet and snow covered (instead of
logging trucks and dry) in May a few years ago. I still need Big Bear Lake
to Agua Dulce down here.

Bill


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
To: "AsABat" <AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat


Yep. doing it in order.

How about between lucky 5 and scissors?
Or simply put: Where is it most needed?

I can build it and shlep it to just about any place.

I haven't gotten response back from the local geocaching community, but I
imagine it would be a popular destination, particularly if they feel they're
making a difference to the PCT community.

But I won't establish it if it doesn't get maintained. Unfortunately, I
don't live close enough to keep water fresh there.


M i c h a e l   S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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 -----Original Message-----
From: AsABat [mailto:AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:59 PM
To: Mike Saenz
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat

Mike-

There is (or at least will be) a cache at the "3rd gate" (northbound) in the
San Felipes. Charlie Jones and his friends in the Sierra Club maintain it.
This is about mile 91 and is at the top of Map A12. Charlie gets permission
from the private property owner. There is no other access to the trail
between Scissors Crossing and Barrel Spring. There is almost always water at
Barrel Spring, and it's only morning's walk from there to Warner Springs.

Have fun. Sounds like you're hiking northbound in order, correct?

Bill


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
To: "AsABat" <AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat


I'm expecting to finish Section "A" by ADZPCTKO.
I should have a real current report for you, AsABat, on the San Felipes just
in time for those catching up behind me!

Also...

I'm toying with the idea of constructing a "Lucky 5" style drop & chair...
And placing it somewhere between Scissors and Warner Springs.

Questions:

1) As I don't live close to this section, I would not be able to maintain a
steady water cache. Are there any Trail Angels in this area that would help
maintain a cache here? At least in the summer months?
2) Would there be any other use for the drop? Any special considerations to
build into it? (critter protection, log book protection, etc.)
3) Where would be the best place to place this? I'm hearing that the San
Felipe road doesn't access the PCT conveniently. The jeep trail to the east
of the hills seems to have access points to it, but an easier road would
help keep it supplied.

I participate in "geocaching" and there may be an interest in the geocaching
community to "find" this location and help keep fresh water there. I'll
sound out this idea to their web sites to see how much interest I can drum
up for this.

M i c h a e l   S a e n z
McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m

 -----Original Message-----
From: AsABat [mailto:AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:46 PM
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat

I just compile this list. It will only be useful if hikers, especially those
hiking before ADZPCTKO, post water reports to this list or directly to me.
Thank you to those who have provided so much info already.

AsaBat
www.4jeffrey.net/pctwater


----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Yakel"

Just wanted to say thank you for the water reports.  Very well done.  I
encourage all thru hikers to go to the website he posted on 2-15-04 for the
latest on the water in So. Cal.
                  Eric

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