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Subject: [pct-l] Where would YOU like to find a water cache?
From: scourtway at bpa-arch.com (Steve Courtway)
Date: Thu Feb 19 13:34:39 2004
References: <157A61E98909CA47A3BBC4D6E5A77377DC5F46@server3.mvenet.ad>
don't expect the water cache to be supplied in the san felipes until thru
hiker season...

don't you have some buildings to design or somthing Mike?  just kidding -
but beware, brick doesn't like architects.

haha,
Steve Courtway
BPA architects
San Diego

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
To: "AsABat" <AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net>; "PCT Mail List (E-mail)"
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:40 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Where would YOU like to find a water cache?


> Sounds like the "Dreaded San Felipe Hills" are covered regarding water
caches! Good news as I'm heading through these soon.
>
> So let me poll y'all:
>
> Where do you feel would be the best location for a water cache?
>
> I've gotten a lot of enthusiastic responses from the geocaching community
about helping to keep a water cache supplied!
> I've even stirred some interest in a couple of geocachers to do the PCT!
>
> Let me know where a location would best serve us as we head out this year!
>
> M i c h a e l   S a e n z
> McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
> A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
> w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: AsABat [mailto:AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:28 PM
> To: Mike Saenz
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat
>
> I'm not sure anything is needed there. There are caches at Lucky 5,
> Scissors, and 3rd Gate. Between Lucky 5 and Scissors there's a CDF water
> tank at Rodriguez Truck Trail that usually has water. You might try
> contacting the Trail Ratz that built the chairs or Charlie Jones. Setting
up
> a cache is easy. Keeping it maintained is the hard part. Lucky 5 is a bit
of
> a hike from the road. 3rd Gate in the San Felipes is a long dirt road and
a
> 1-1/2 mile hike up hill. The even bigger problem is hikers relying on them
> (not a good idea) only to find the cache empty.
>
> Good luck on the continuous section hikes. There's a couple other guys
doing
> the same - Crazy Old Scout Ben Holmes is one, but he hasn't seem to been
on
> the trail much. I do them when I can. Section E was a wonderful time
during
> New Years weekend 2003, and Section O was quiet and snow covered (instead
of
> logging trucks and dry) in May a few years ago. I still need Big Bear Lake
> to Agua Dulce down here.
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
> To: "AsABat" <AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat
>
>
> Yep. doing it in order.
>
> How about between lucky 5 and scissors?
> Or simply put: Where is it most needed?
>
> I can build it and shlep it to just about any place.
>
> I haven't gotten response back from the local geocaching community, but I
> imagine it would be a popular destination, particularly if they feel
they're
> making a difference to the PCT community.
>
> But I won't establish it if it doesn't get maintained. Unfortunately, I
> don't live close enough to keep water fresh there.
>
>
> M i c h a e l   S a e n z
> McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
> A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
> w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: AsABat [mailto:AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:59 PM
> To: Mike Saenz
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat
>
> Mike-
>
> There is (or at least will be) a cache at the "3rd gate" (northbound) in
the
> San Felipes. Charlie Jones and his friends in the Sierra Club maintain it.
> This is about mile 91 and is at the top of Map A12. Charlie gets
permission
> from the private property owner. There is no other access to the trail
> between Scissors Crossing and Barrel Spring. There is almost always water
at
> Barrel Spring, and it's only morning's walk from there to Warner Springs.
>
> Have fun. Sounds like you're hiking northbound in order, correct?
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
> To: "AsABat" <AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat
>
>
> I'm expecting to finish Section "A" by ADZPCTKO.
> I should have a real current report for you, AsABat, on the San Felipes
just
> in time for those catching up behind me!
>
> Also...
>
> I'm toying with the idea of constructing a "Lucky 5" style drop & chair...
> And placing it somewhere between Scissors and Warner Springs.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1) As I don't live close to this section, I would not be able to maintain
a
> steady water cache. Are there any Trail Angels in this area that would
help
> maintain a cache here? At least in the summer months?
> 2) Would there be any other use for the drop? Any special considerations
to
> build into it? (critter protection, log book protection, etc.)
> 3) Where would be the best place to place this? I'm hearing that the San
> Felipe road doesn't access the PCT conveniently. The jeep trail to the
east
> of the hills seems to have access points to it, but an easier road would
> help keep it supplied.
>
> I participate in "geocaching" and there may be an interest in the
geocaching
> community to "find" this location and help keep fresh water there. I'll
> sound out this idea to their web sites to see how much interest I can drum
> up for this.
>
> M i c h a e l   S a e n z
> McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
> A r c h i t e c t u r e    P l a n n i n g    I n t e r i o r s
> w  w  w  .  m  v  e  -  a  r  c  h  i  t  e  c  t  s  .  c  o  m
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: AsABat [mailto:AsABat@4Jeffrey.Net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:46 PM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Reports from AS A Bat
>
> I just compile this list. It will only be useful if hikers, especially
those
> hiking before ADZPCTKO, post water reports to this list or directly to me.
> Thank you to those who have provided so much info already.
>
> AsaBat
> www.4jeffrey.net/pctwater
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Yakel"
>
> Just wanted to say thank you for the water reports.  Very well done.  I
> encourage all thru hikers to go to the website he posted on 2-15-04 for
the
> latest on the water in So. Cal.
>                   Eric
>
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