FW: [pct-l] Advice sought on lightway trek

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From: johnsmallberries <johnsmallberries@hvc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:19:48 -0400
To: Eric Lee GAMES <elee@microsoft.com>, pcta
<pct-l-request@mailman.backcountry.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Advice sought on lightway trek

Well, maybe someone should define the terms: strolling, walking, hiking,
backpacking, trekking, mountaineering, alpining, and climbing. I ask a
legitimate question and get a pile of horseshit from 5 people excluding you=
.
You are the only person who has provided a thoughtful reply. However, there
are 'light mountaineering' adherents around here. It is not a California
phenomenon. Marc/

> From: "Eric Lee (GAMES)" <elee@microsoft.com>
> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:47:01 -0800
> To: "johnsmallberries" <johnsmallberries@hvc.rr.com>, "pcta"
> <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] Advice sought on lightway trek
>
> Marc wrote:
>>
> On Friday, 10 January, I am going to do the following trek: climb
> The Wittenberg Mountain . . .
>
> What should I carry, footwear, snowshoes, etc. as an ultralight trekker
> would do it given the above?
>>
>
> That's not long-distance hiking, that's mountaineering.  The two have
> different goals, different risks, and different equipment requirements.  =
I
> don't think even the most rabid ultralighter here would tell you _not_ to=
 take
> a full winter mountaineering load.  Anything less could easily be suicide=
, and
> everyone here knows that.  Most ultralighters have enough sense to avoid =
icy
> mountains in January.
>
> Now, when you're ready to do 30 miles on the PCT in Oregon, in August, no
> snow, temperature range from 60F to 95F, elevation range +/- 1000 feet, 1=
6
> hours of daylight . . . well, I'm sure you'll get all kinds of advice.
>
> Eric
>
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> From: johnsmallberries [mailto:johnsmallberries@hvc.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:23 PM
> To: pcta
> Subject: [pct-l] Advice sought on lightway trek
>
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> I can=B9t whine/rant/pontificate/command/troll abt lite trekking w/out do=
ing
> it. Tell me what I should do and I will do it. After trek, I will report =
my
> reactions. On Friday, 10 January, I am going to do the following trek: cl=
imb
> The Wittenberg Mountain, elevation gain 3000 feet over 4.95 miles,
> snow depth 36-45 inches, weather- abt 25F at base, 15F at summit with
> unknown wind, but minimum of 10mph, climb two iced, three tiered waterfal=
ls,
> not vertical, abt 65 degree slope overall, a drop of 70 feet from top of
> each. Sunrise is 7:24, sunset is 4:40pm, but darkness is early because
> mountains to the west crunch the sunset to abt 3:30pm. Roundtrip is 10
> miles.
>
> What should I carry, footwear, snowshoes, etc. as an ultralight trekker
> would do it given the above?
>
> Thanks for your help. It should be interesting and, hopefully, fun. Marc
> =B3smallberries=B2 Adin.
>
>
> =B3The arc of the moral universe is huge, but it bends toward justice.=B2=
 Martin
> Luther King, Jr.
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