[pct-l] PCT-l and flame wars

Anthony Biegen abiegen at cox.net
Fri Mar 9 19:55:32 CST 2018


Gary - Piper laughed when I read her your post. She said to say that "the
PCT-L is dead to me!" with a smile on her face.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Gary Schenk <gary_schenk at verizon.net> wrote:

>
>  Piper always posted good info. I always thought her hike from Santa
> Barbara to the PCT was more impressive than any PCT thruhike.
>
> Gary
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Biegen <ajbiegen at gmail.com>
> To: Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:59 am
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-l and flame wars
>
> I have to agree with Fireweed. There was a lot of flame wars and
> misogynistic remarks on the list and in some cases the perpetrators
> harassed their target further off list. Piper left the list for that reason
> as did others. At times Ned was on the receiving end of flames so I'm
> surprised that he doesn't recall the reality of the list's history.
>
> Piper still hikes the trail every year but she showed no interest when I
> told her the list was back.
>
> Perhaps those days are gone and the list will live up to the fantasy
> nirvana that some people seem to remember.
>
> TrailHacker
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> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:13 AM Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net> wrote:
>
> > Ned Tibbits said: "I don't recall when Brick started this listserve,
> > but I think I've been on it since 2005 and have never seen a "flame
> > war" or bitchy person rant their opinions on another."
> > Although the PCT list serve conveyed a lot of info, I remember more
> > than a few incidences on this list serve of nasty interactions, many
> > involving Rheinhold Metzger and that guy who is or was Yogi's
> > boyfriend. All under the guise of "free speech" of course. It has
> > driven many people away from the list serve. Plus the fact that it is
> > in a form that you have to wade through to get to anything of
> > interest. White Blaze is a good example of a a subject driven system
> > where you can go to a certain subject to get the info you need. Jack
> > Haskel of the PCT had said several years ago that the PCTA was going
> > to develop their own White Blaze type site, but I don't think they
> > ever have. I've been concentrating on hiking other trails, so don't go
> > on the PCTA website to find out what they have done.
> > I don't like Facebook either, but the list serve was not any less
> > prone to flame wars and bitchiness.
> > --Mary "Fireweed" Kwart
> >
> >
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