[pct-l] PCT-l and flame wars

[Lee Staley]

Gary’s right on - a lot of imagination, research and sheer grit had to be in Piper’s trek from Santa Barbara to the PCT - very impressive!

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> On Mar 9, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Gary Schenk <gary_schenk at verizon.net> wrote:
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> Piper always posted good info. I always thought her hike from Santa Barbara to the PCT was more impressive than any PCT thruhike.
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> Gary
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Biegen <ajbiegen at gmail.com>
> To: Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net>
> Cc: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:59 am
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT-l and flame wars
> 
> I have to agree with Fireweed. There was a lot of flame wars and
> misogynistic remarks on the list and in some cases the perpetrators
> harassed their target further off list. Piper left the list for that reason
> as did others. At times Ned was on the receiving end of flames so I'm
> surprised that he doesn't recall the reality of the list's history.
> 
> Piper still hikes the trail every year but she showed no interest when I
> told her the list was back.
> 
> Perhaps those days are gone and the list will live up to the fantasy
> nirvana that some people seem to remember.
> 
> TrailHacker
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>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:13 AM Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Ned Tibbits said: "I don't recall when Brick started this listserve,
>> but I think I've been on it since 2005 and have never seen a "flame
>> war" or bitchy person rant their opinions on another."
>> Although the PCT list serve conveyed a lot of info, I remember more
>> than a few incidences on this list serve of nasty interactions, many
>> involving Rheinhold Metzger and that guy who is or was Yogi's
>> boyfriend. All under the guise of "free speech" of course. It has
>> driven many people away from the list serve. Plus the fact that it is
>> in a form that you have to wade through to get to anything of
>> interest. White Blaze is a good example of a a subject driven system
>> where you can go to a certain subject to get the info you need. Jack
>> Haskel of the PCT had said several years ago that the PCTA was going
>> to develop their own White Blaze type site, but I don't think they
>> ever have. I've been concentrating on hiking other trails, so don't go
>> on the PCTA website to find out what they have done.
>> I don't like Facebook either, but the list serve was not any less
>> prone to flame wars and bitchiness.
>> --Mary "Fireweed" Kwart
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