[pct-l] PCTA Statement on Water Caches

[marmot marmot]

This is exactly what I want to start happening. We don't have to do the trail the same way. I believe we have to think about possible impacts. In my opinion, talking about this can start to change behaviors. We are trying to cause new hikers to think. I don't wear heavy boots but I do carry enough water to make it to the next source. 
Marmot

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> On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:17 PM, marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There are a number of things making people unsafe on the trail. Water/food caches are part of the problem. I completely support what Jack has said  I wrote an open letter to the hiking community which will be published in the next Aldhawest Gazette. Please read it and start talking about solutions 
> Marmot
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>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Gail Van Velzer <vanvelzer at charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Excellent article that I whole-heartedly agree with.  As you can imagine, with horses, I need much more water than a water cache has, so it's even more important for me to explore my options with regards to water.  In some instances, I must meet my trailer for water.  From the beginning, I decided I wouldn't use any of the caches.  I too was faced with not finding water at "reliable" sources...water tanks, guzzlers, etc.  I was recently faced with having to ride down the mountain in the dark to Hiker Town.  We finally found a spring at Horse Spring Camp, but it wasn't easy to find or get water back to the horses.  It took 7 trips (.2 miles each way) through a lot of brush and downed trees, hauling as much water as was possible to carry on each trip.  I guess I'm still old school, where we relied on ourselves and not artificial caches.
>> 
>> Also, in regards to one cache, Oasis Cache, Frankenstein sure caused my horse to take notice!  He didn't spook, but I can see how some horses would. The props, the pictures, the chairs, etc., don't really need to be there. The spot is shady enough.  I have to agree with Jack Haskell, that all the caches are causing people to be less safe on the trail.
>> 
>> Golly
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Vesely" <JVesely at sstinternational.com>
>> To: "PCT L." <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 12:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCTA Statement on Water Caches
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>> 
>>> I'll second that.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pct-L [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Barry Teschlog
>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:53 AM
>>> To: PCT L.
>>> Subject: [pct-l] PCTA Statement on Water Caches
>>> 
>>> http://www.pcta.org/2015/problem-water-caches-pct-27677/
>>> IMO, Excellent.
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