[pct-l] Completing Canada permit application form
Kendall Penn
kendallpenn at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 10 12:28:10 CST 2014
Meike,
Last year I entered "Handsome" in that field and the Canadians processed it without challenging me. One of my resolutions for this New Year is to focus on honesty so I intend to use "Homely".
Kendall
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> 1. Re: Foot Ready (walt Durling)
> 2. Re: Powerhouse Fire route (Marian Harmon)
> 3. PCT - Hard Dirt? (Wally Neal)
> 4. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (Scott Williams)
> 5. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (Adrian Santos)
> 6. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (Nikki Eddy)
> 7. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (Nikki Eddy)
> 8. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (Luce Cruz)
> 9. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (Bob Bankhead)
> 10. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (marmot marmot)
> 11. Shoe size and blisters (Tortoise)
> 12. Re: Powerhouse Fire route (gary_schenk at verizon.net)
> 13. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (aslive at charter.net)
> 14. Re: Shoe size and blisters (aslive at charter.net)
> 15. Food (Jake Handy)
> 16. Re: PCT - Hard Dirt? (marmot marmot)
> 17. Completing Canada permit application form (Meike)
> 18. Re: Food (Scott Williams)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 14:16:20 -0500
> From: walt Durling <durlfam4 at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Foot Ready
> To: Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Mary. The little toes on my feet tend to rub together causing hot spots. I especially need to ensure my toenails are always trimmed or I'll pay the price quickly. A couple of weeks ago I developed a blister on my left pinkie. I was surprised since it wasn't all that painful and I thought it was only a hot spot. Your advice about larger size shoes for long distance hiking is crucial.
>
> What I've also found is that by using a foot powder/gel my feet also seem much happier (I had forgotten to put some on the other day when I got the blister). Awhile back I came across Anti-Monkey Butt anti-friction powder. Its a talc/calamine powder which can be used in any places on one's body which chafes. It's cheaper than the other more frequently mentioned foot products - 6 ozs for about 6 bucks. It does a good job for me lubricating between my toes. When I wear merino wool or coolmax-type fabrics, my feet rarely sweat. Because it's a powder, I'm unsure how it would work when the feet are wet - probably wouldn't hurt but probably wouldn't help, either. Walt
>
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> > On Feb 7, 2014, at 21:54, Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net> wrote:
> >
> > My input is geared to those who are older hikers--in their 60's and
> > 70's. After several years of long distance backpacking after I retired
> > ( I am 62) I settled on men's shoes only--I used to wear size 8 1/2
> > womens but now wear size 9 1/2 men's. Larger shoes cured many of my
> > foot problems (i.e. blisters, and some ball of foot pain). I still
> > suffered some ball of foot pain when hiking over 10 miles a day, so I
> > replaced the insoles in the shoes with "Sole Signature Footbeds" from
> > REI. I had orthotics, but got rid of them. I don't need them with the
> > high arch support of the Sole insoles.
> >
> > I have really seen that as I get older the fat pad on the bottom of my
> > feet has gotten thinner, so I do use a padded insole. I also use
> > marathon runner socks that are padded on the ball of the foot and the
> > heel--the rest of the sock is very thin. The name is Thor Lo 84N's. I
> > no longer wear double layer socks, not needing them anymore.
> >
> > All of my foot wear choices have evolved over the years, as I became
> > more fit and more used to hiking with a pack over long distances. What
> > I wear now may not be the best for an older person just starting out
> > with long distance backpacking. If you keep backpacking, you will
> > evolve as you get into better shape. Your feet will tolerate lighter
> > weight boots, socks and insoles (or lack thereof).
> >
> > --Fireweed
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:52:30 -0800
> From: Marian Harmon <marianharmon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powerhouse Fire route
> To: "enyapjr ." <enyapjr at comcast.net>
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> I think that's accurate. The map on the PCTA site (Option 3 for the
> Powerhouse Fire closure) is dated May 2013. Still, that's the most recent
> information on the website, so people may still consider that a viable
> option. At any rate, I still don't recommend anyone hike down via Godde
> Pass (Godde Rd) to get to the open aqueduct or as a bypass to the closed
> area. I don't even see why anyone would want to take Munz Ranch down to the
> aqueduct, either. There are a lot of other water sources available in the
> area, natural, private and retail. Honestly, taking the aqueduct that far
> (Via Godde or Munz) will just make what many already dread (the covered
> aqueduct walk from Neenach) just that much more miserable. Taking ELR/Pine
> Canyon to the PCT will be the most enjoyable option for the time being,
> IMO.
>
> I also don't foresee the area being open after 2/28, either. I agree that
> it will likely be closed all year.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:14 AM, <enyapjr at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > FWIW, before this gets too far out of hand - regarding "Godde Pass", the
> > current alternate route via the "aqueduct" does NOT go that way! - the PCTA
> > link is to a map that shows the 'panic' alternate routing the day after the
> > Powerhouse Fire started - now that the fire is long extinguished, the PCT
> > is open between Bouquet Canyon Road & San Francisquito Canyon Road... For
> > the current aqueduct 'option', one would take San Francisquito Canyon Rd.
> > NE, then Elizabeth Lake Rd. N & NW, then Munz Ranch Rd. to the N,
> > intersecting the aqueduct 'road' at 34.6877, -118.3848 (NOT at
> > 34.6206,-118.2335 on Godde Hill Rd, which is ~10 miles ESE of the Munz
> > Ranch Rd. point).
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 13:12:31 -0700
> From: "Wally Neal" <wallyneal at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I just got a new tent & took it down to the park to check it out & practice
> setting it up. Wow! Was it ever difficult to get those tent stakes into the
> ground. We've had no rain here in a very long time, as is the case for most
> of the PCT. Is driving tent stakes likely to be a common problem? I'm
> thinking about taking a 5 in. tile roofing nail to use to create most of the
> stake hole, putting the tent stake in that and then driving it the last inch
> or so.
>
> -Walljito
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:32:49 -0800
> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: Wally Neal <wallyneal at gmail.com>
> Cc: "<Pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> It was not an issue for the vast majority of places we camped. There were
> those few times in really rocky spots or on old gravel road beds where it
> was an issue, but not enough of one to bring anything special along. But
> if the nail is light enough, bring it and see if it's useful. If it isn't
> you'll get rid of it once you figure that out.
>
> Good hiking Wallijito!
>
> Shroomer
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Wally Neal <wallyneal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just got a new tent & took it down to the park to check it out & practice
> > setting it up. Wow! Was it ever difficult to get those tent stakes into the
> > ground. We've had no rain here in a very long time, as is the case for most
> > of the PCT. Is driving tent stakes likely to be a common problem? I'm
> > thinking about taking a 5 in. tile roofing nail to use to create most of
> > the
> > stake hole, putting the tent stake in that and then driving it the last
> > inch
> > or so.
> >
> > -Walljito
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 22:57:22 +0000
> From: Adrian Santos <santos666091525 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>, "pct-l at backcountry.net"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> hi
> i have the same worryi dont know if go with the big steak than came with the tarptent that i could hammer with a rock or get some of those thinner pegs.....any suggestionthanks adrian.
>
> > Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:32:49 -0800
> > From: baidarker at gmail.com
> > To: wallyneal at gmail.com
> > CC: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> >
> > It was not an issue for the vast majority of places we camped. There were
> > those few times in really rocky spots or on old gravel road beds where it
> > was an issue, but not enough of one to bring anything special along. But
> > if the nail is light enough, bring it and see if it's useful. If it isn't
> > you'll get rid of it once you figure that out.
> >
> > Good hiking Wallijito!
> >
> > Shroomer
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Wally Neal <wallyneal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I just got a new tent & took it down to the park to check it out & practice
> > > setting it up. Wow! Was it ever difficult to get those tent stakes into the
> > > ground. We've had no rain here in a very long time, as is the case for most
> > > of the PCT. Is driving tent stakes likely to be a common problem? I'm
> > > thinking about taking a 5 in. tile roofing nail to use to create most of
> > > the
> > > stake hole, putting the tent stake in that and then driving it the last
> > > inch
> > > or so.
> > >
> > > -Walljito
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:05:25 -0800
> From: Nikki Eddy <nikkieddy at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: Adrian Santos <santos666091525 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Scott Williams
> <baidarker at gmail.com>
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> Run a solid stick through the place you'd normally stake it down, then put heavy rocks on the stick...that's what I do on hard surfaces...just be sure to put the rock and sticks back before you go...leave no trace! :)
> n
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Adrian Santos <santos666091525 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > hi
> > i have the same worryi dont know if go with the big steak than came with the tarptent that i could hammer with a rock or get some of those thinner pegs.....any suggestionthanks adrian.
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:32:49 -0800
> >> From: baidarker at gmail.com
> >> To: wallyneal at gmail.com
> >> CC: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> >>
> >> It was not an issue for the vast majority of places we camped. There were
> >> those few times in really rocky spots or on old gravel road beds where it
> >> was an issue, but not enough of one to bring anything special along. But
> >> if the nail is light enough, bring it and see if it's useful. If it isn't
> >> you'll get rid of it once you figure that out.
> >>
> >> Good hiking Wallijito!
> >>
> >> Shroomer
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Wally Neal <wallyneal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just got a new tent & took it down to the park to check it out & practice
> >>> setting it up. Wow! Was it ever difficult to get those tent stakes into the
> >>> ground. We've had no rain here in a very long time, as is the case for most
> >>> of the PCT. Is driving tent stakes likely to be a common problem? I'm
> >>> thinking about taking a 5 in. tile roofing nail to use to create most of
> >>> the
> >>> stake hole, putting the tent stake in that and then driving it the last
> >>> inch
> >>> or so.
> >>>
> >>> -Walljito
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:05:25 -0800
> From: Nikki Eddy <nikkieddy at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: Adrian Santos <santos666091525 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Scott Williams
> <baidarker at gmail.com>
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> Run a solid stick through the place you'd normally stake it down, then put heavy rocks on the stick...that's what I do on hard surfaces...just be sure to put the rock and sticks back before you go...leave no trace! :)
> n
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Adrian Santos <santos666091525 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > hi
> > i have the same worryi dont know if go with the big steak than came with the tarptent that i could hammer with a rock or get some of those thinner pegs.....any suggestionthanks adrian.
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:32:49 -0800
> >> From: baidarker at gmail.com
> >> To: wallyneal at gmail.com
> >> CC: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> >>
> >> It was not an issue for the vast majority of places we camped. There were
> >> those few times in really rocky spots or on old gravel road beds where it
> >> was an issue, but not enough of one to bring anything special along. But
> >> if the nail is light enough, bring it and see if it's useful. If it isn't
> >> you'll get rid of it once you figure that out.
> >>
> >> Good hiking Wallijito!
> >>
> >> Shroomer
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Wally Neal <wallyneal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just got a new tent & took it down to the park to check it out & practice
> >>> setting it up. Wow! Was it ever difficult to get those tent stakes into the
> >>> ground. We've had no rain here in a very long time, as is the case for most
> >>> of the PCT. Is driving tent stakes likely to be a common problem? I'm
> >>> thinking about taking a 5 in. tile roofing nail to use to create most of
> >>> the
> >>> stake hole, putting the tent stake in that and then driving it the last
> >>> inch
> >>> or so.
> >>>
> >>> -Walljito
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:16:27 -0800
> From: Luce Cruz <lucecruz13 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Tie tent lines to rocks, use more rocks to hold it in place.
>
> Or, if weather permits, just camp without a tent, exposed to nature and all
> the magic of being out in it, one with it.
>
> Luce Cruz
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 16:53:53 -0800
> From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: "PCT List Forum" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> No matter where I go, I always carry at least one titanium nail stake;
> usually two.
>
> Most of the time, it remains in the stake bag as my "extra and/or
> replacement" stake (in case of loss), because I know how/take the time to
> find a good camping spot. However, the Trail Gods don't always smile on me;
> they laugh instead and plot against me.
>
> Occasionally it is used to drill a pilot hole in very hard ground for one of
> my other stakes.
>
> Rarely, (Guitar Lake comes to mind) it is the only stake I can physically
> get into the ground.
>
> On one occasion, I had to hammer it into a downed log which I was forced to
> use as a staking point.
>
>
> Those Easton hollow aluminum stakes that come with many shelter are fine in
> most cases, but I have had they bend, split at the tip, or break; others
> report the heads popping off when trying to remove them, but I've never
> experienced that.
>
> My stake of choice for the PCT, CDT, and CT is the MSR Groundhog. I have
> never had a stake failure with them. Obviously, I don't try to use them in
> snow or deep sand, although I could - buried horizontally as anchors with
> rocks on top.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:06:26 -0800
> From: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: Bob Bankhead <wandering_bob at comcast.net>, "pct-l @backcountry.net"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS1798A1FAB61995347BD126FC8900 at phx.gbl>
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> Remember to spray your tent stakes with day-glo orange. Loosing them is more a problem than not getting them in the ground Marmot
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:54 PM, "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > No matter where I go, I always carry at least one titanium nail stake;
> > usually two.
> >
> > Most of the time, it remains in the stake bag as my "extra and/or
> > replacement" stake (in case of loss), because I know how/take the time to
> > find a good camping spot. However, the Trail Gods don't always smile on me;
> > they laugh instead and plot against me.
> >
> > Occasionally it is used to drill a pilot hole in very hard ground for one of
> > my other stakes.
> >
> > Rarely, (Guitar Lake comes to mind) it is the only stake I can physically
> > get into the ground.
> >
> > On one occasion, I had to hammer it into a downed log which I was forced to
> > use as a staking point.
> >
> >
> > Those Easton hollow aluminum stakes that come with many shelter are fine in
> > most cases, but I have had they bend, split at the tip, or break; others
> > report the heads popping off when trying to remove them, but I've never
> > experienced that.
> >
> > My stake of choice for the PCT, CDT, and CT is the MSR Groundhog. I have
> > never had a stake failure with them. Obviously, I don't try to use them in
> > snow or deep sand, although I could - buried horizontally as anchors with
> > rocks on top.
> >
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:42:02 -0800
> From: Tortoise <tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Shoe size and blisters
> To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I'm not mad at smart on feet. And I seldom get blisters.
>
> I suspect the major cause of blisters is shoes that are too short to too narrow in the toe area for your feet. If so the toes cannot spread as nature intended so they rub against each other.
>
> My two cents worth. Comments?
>
> Tortoise
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:56:59 -0600 (CST)
> From: gary_schenk at verizon.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powerhouse Fire route
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Parts of the Angeles National Forest are still closed because of the Station fire. It does not seem to affect the PCT.
> http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5422007.pdf
>
> The PCT is still closed in the Williamson Rock area.
> http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5444705.pdf
>
> The poodle dog is slowly giving way as the forest recovers. It's still there, but not like it was the first couple of years after the fire.
>
> More info on Angeles closures:
> http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/angeles/alerts-notices
>
> HTH
> Gary
>
>
> On 02/08/14, Dan Welch wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info on the aqueduct - and also on the fact that the closure
> order expires Feb 28. I'll keep a close eye on that!
>
> As for the Station fire - I was unaware there is a closure. I see nothing
> on PCTA about it. Is this an official closure or just the Poodle Dog
> alternate as a suggested way to avoid the Poodle Dog bush? Looking at the
> map it looks like the PCT skirts the north end of the Station Fire closure
> area - but I can't really tell if it enters or not. (It appears NOT to.)
>
> Anyway more information from those in the know would help on that one.
>
> Thanks all!
> Timberline
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin [mailto:hikevv at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 1:39 PM
> To: welchenergy at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powerhouse Fire route
>
> You can see a street view image of the aqueduct here. This is the entry
> point for thruhikers bypassing the Powerhouse Fire closure.
> https://www.google.com/maps/preview/@34.62055,-118.233492,3a,75y,272.84h,80.
> 25t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1smnq-QeYK3noScTlQIwIp2A!2e0?hl=en
>
> Water can be had from the aqueduct, easiest way might be with a wide-mouth
> bottle attached to a long chord.
> But if I understood your question, getting into the aqueduct is not a great
> idea, and you'll see signs posted to stay out. There's a current, and the
> sloped concrete channel walls are lined with a layer of green algae that
> looks like it'd be pretty slippery.
> That being said, the Powerhouse closure that USFS posted is scheduled to
> expire on Feb 28. FS could decide to keep the PCT closed, though, if they
> deem it unsafe. Portions of the PCT in the 2009 Station Fire are still
> currently closed because of hazards like burned trees that haven't fallen
> down yet and poodledog bush. So check the PCTA website again next month for
> latest status. Of course, the Saufleys are always up to date and you can
> find out more when you stop there.
>
> Kevin Corcoran
> Volunteer PCTA Area Coordinator
> Reg 1 Sec E
> http://pct1e.blogspot.com/
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:03:08 -0500 (EST)
> From: aslive at charter.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
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> Marmot
>
> I know that is not what you meant, but it seemed as though you were
> implying that the day-glow orange paint will help loosen the stakes. :)
>
> Shepherd
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 7:06 PM, marmot marmot wrote:
>
> > Remember to spray your tent stakes with day-glo orange. Loosing them
> > is more a problem than not getting them in the ground Marmot
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:54 PM, "Bob Bankhead"
> >> <wandering_bob at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> No matter where I go, I always carry at least one titanium nail
> >> stake;
> >> usually two.
> >> Most of the time, it remains in the stake bag as my "extra and/or
> >> replacement" stake (in case of loss), because I know how/take the
> >> time to
> >> find a good camping spot. However, the Trail Gods don't always smile
> >> on me;
> >> they laugh instead and plot against me.
> >>
> >> Occasionally it is used to drill a pilot hole in very hard ground for
> >> one of
> >> my other stakes.
> >>
> >> Rarely, (Guitar Lake comes to mind) it is the only stake I can
> >> physically
> >> get into the ground.
> >>
> >> On one occasion, I had to hammer it into a downed log which I was
> >> forced to
> >> use as a staking point.
> >>
> >> Those Easton hollow aluminum stakes that come with many shelter are
> >> fine in
> >> most cases, but I have had they bend, split at the tip, or break;
> >> others
> >> report the heads popping off when trying to remove them, but I've
> >> never
> >> experienced that.
> >>
> >> My stake of choice for the PCT, CDT, and CT is the MSR Groundhog. I
> >> have
> >> never had a stake failure with them. Obviously, I don't try to use
> >> them in
> >> snow or deep sand, although I could - buried horizontally as anchors
> >> with
> >> rocks on top.
> >>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:11:31 -0500 (EST)
> From: aslive at charter.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shoe size and blisters
> To: Tortoise <tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Cc: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> If you can not find a pair of shoes with an adequately wide toe box for
> you, try cutting your shoes toe box to widen it and then reenforce it
> with duct tape. The down side here is that you will need to do regular
> maintaince on the shoe less its life will be dramatically shortened.
>
> Shepherd
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Tortoise wrote:
>
> > I'm not mad at smart on feet. And I seldom get blisters.
> >
> > I suspect the major cause of blisters is shoes that are too short to
> > too narrow in the toe area for your feet. If so the toes cannot
> > spread as nature intended so they rub against each other.
> >
> > My two cents worth. Comments?
> >
> > Tortoise
> >
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:59:00 -0800
> From: Jake Handy <jakers329 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Food
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
>
> I understand that my caloric needs will definitely rise during the day to day hiking of a thru attempt, especially from that of my 2 to 3 day hikes I'm used to. Can someone give me a snapshot of a typical day on the PCT of what they ate, including specific foods/amounts? I realize that needs vary with the weather and terrain, but an idea of your average day would help! By the way.... I'm a fit 46 y/o guy.
> Thanks!
> Jake
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:09:14 -0800
> From: marmot marmot <marmotwestvanc at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT - Hard Dirt?
> To: "aslive at charter.net" <aslive at charter.net>
> Cc: "pct-l @backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Whoops typo. Marmot
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 10, 2014, at 8:03 AM, aslive at charter.net wrote:
> >
> > Marmot
> >
> > I know that is not what you meant, but it seemed as though you were implying that the day-glow orange paint will help loosen the stakes. :)
> >
> > Shepherd
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 7:06 PM, marmot marmot wrote:
> >>
> >> Remember to spray your tent stakes with day-glo orange. Loosing them is more a problem than not getting them in the ground Marmot
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:54 PM, "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> No matter where I go, I always carry at least one titanium nail stake;
> >>> usually two.
> >>> Most of the time, it remains in the stake bag as my "extra and/or
> >>> replacement" stake (in case of loss), because I know how/take the time to
> >>> find a good camping spot. However, the Trail Gods don't always smile on me;
> >>> they laugh instead and plot against me.
> >>>
> >>> Occasionally it is used to drill a pilot hole in very hard ground for one of
> >>> my other stakes.
> >>>
> >>> Rarely, (Guitar Lake comes to mind) it is the only stake I can physically
> >>> get into the ground.
> >>>
> >>> On one occasion, I had to hammer it into a downed log which I was forced to
> >>> use as a staking point.
> >>>
> >>> Those Easton hollow aluminum stakes that come with many shelter are fine in
> >>> most cases, but I have had they bend, split at the tip, or break; others
> >>> report the heads popping off when trying to remove them, but I've never
> >>> experienced that.
> >>>
> >>> My stake of choice for the PCT, CDT, and CT is the MSR Groundhog. I have
> >>> never had a stake failure with them. Obviously, I don't try to use them in
> >>> snow or deep sand, although I could - buried horizontally as anchors with
> >>> rocks on top.
> >>>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:07 +0100
> From: Meike <dideldadum at web.de>
> Subject: [pct-l] Completing Canada permit application form
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I'm having problems to understand some parts of the application form for
> the Canada entry permit. Could anyone help me out on this?
>
> 1. "Appearance" - what are they asking for? I can translate the word,
> but do not get the idea. Can you give me an example of possible answers
> to get me started?
> 1. "Itinerary": As they are asking for the ETA and the ETD further down,
> what am I supposed to fill in here?
> 2. "What type of funds will you have in your possession?" - No idea yet,
> how much cash I will carry at that time - funny question. Any problems
> to expect if I just fill in a fantasy number, 100 i.e., plus "Visa" for
> credit card?
>
> Thanks again for your help, dear fellow hikers :)
> Meike
>
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:57:10 -0800
> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Food
> To: Jake Handy <jakers329 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "<Pct-l at backcountry.net>" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> On the PCT I ate constantly and ate mostly crap. Any kind of sugared
> cereal and cheese for breakfast, cheese crackers, corn nuts, candy bars,
> jerky, nuts, dried fruit etc, every hour on the hour to stay fueled. Lunch
> was tortillas and cheese, salami, peanut butter and mac and cheese or
> lipton sides for dinner with lots of junk to fill it out. The healthiest
> stuff on that trail were the foraged greens and onions, agave, mushrooms
> and other tasties to be found as one hikes. I do a lot of that on any
> trail. I made it to Canada fine, loosing 35 lbs but figure I was
> malnourished by the end. I was eating 2 boxes of mac and cheese per dinner
> by Stehekin and was still hungry! That's 8 servings according to the box!
>
> I hadn't planned to thru hike, so most of this was purchased from trail
> towns on the way. I just couldn't stop walking and food be damned!
>
> My diet changed drastically between that hike and the CDT, 2 years later.
> I stopped eating all processed foods, primarily sugar and flour. Also on
> the CDT, I went stoveless. Everything was simply soaked. So, for the CDT
> my breakfast consisted of 3 oz of a mix of rolled grains, 2 oz dried fruit
> and 2 oz nuts, soaked overnight and topped with a cup or more of yogurt I
> cultured on trail from Nido.
>
> Lunch and dinner were the same, 2 oz instant brn rice, 2 oz dried pork,
> chicken, beef, shrimp or other Asian dried fish, dried cheese or TVP or
> some combination of all that, 2 oz dried mixed veggies including seaweed
> which I love, (that's a lot of veggies rehydrated) 2 oz nuts, 2 oz dried
> fruit and 2 tbls olive oil, and spices and a bit of hard cheese and my own
> smoked jerky. People were blown away by the sheer size of these meals. I
> also sprouted seeds, beans and anything that would grow, in small zip locks
> and loved the crunchy little guys as part of my meals. That's over 1/2 lb
> dried food at each meal. Over the snowy San Juans I added more block
> cheese and salami or summer sausage as I needed even more calories. The
> soaking of the next meal began as I was finishing the current meal, so they
> all had 4 to 6 hours of rehydration and they were tender and delicious!!!
>
> What is amazing is that when eating all that junk on the PCT I needed to
> refuel on the hour all through the day as I was starving and would start to
> get light headed if I didn't. On the CDT, I ate breakfast, lunch and
> dinner throughout New Mexico and was never hungry, never bonked or hit the
> wall energetically and never needed snacks, even on 30 mile days. When I
> entered the San Juans and needed more calories due to the snow and
> ruggedness, I simply couldn't eat that much at one sitting and at that
> point split my breakfast, half at 6am, half at 9am. Lunch was split
> between noon and 3pm and dinner I just ate in my bag till it was done.
>
> It was a hell of a lot of work dehydrating enough meat and veggies for
> nearly 5 months of meals, but totally worth it. My meals were so good,
> that as my speeds built and I began leaving meals in the hiker boxes, I
> gathered a following of folks who loved them as they'd never had so much
> quality veggies and protein in a trail meal.
>
> For the AT this year I'm dehydrating a lot of meat and veggies as these are
> the difficult things to buy in trail towns. But I'm figuring I'll be
> crossing into towns every 2 to 3 days, so much of the other stuff, nuts,
> dried fruit, basic starches and some fresh stuff, will be purchased on the
> fly. Amoeba, who hiked the AT twice in Crocs and most of the PCT, always
> could pull out of her pack a nice juicy cucumber, red pepper or an apple
> and man those were delicious on trail. I loved hiking with her! So maybe
> I'll do a bit more of that on the AT. But I'll ship out a basic bunch of
> healthy stuff every 2 or 3 weeks and just put meals together as I go. And
> this time I'm cooking. Too much time in shelters on rainy nights to not
> have a warm cup of soup.
>
> There's probably more, but this is enough to give you the picture. Oh, and
> I only lost 6lbs on the CDT. I didn't need to loose much that hike, but
> the increase in energy, fitness and basic happiness with what I ate on the
> CDT was incredible.
>
> But, damn, just go for it. Bring as much healthy stuff as you can fit in,
> but no matter what you eat, if you love living on trail, you'll make it
> anywhere you want to go. If you feel malnourished, and many find
> themselves loosing more weight than they should, think healthy options,
> stuff that sticks to your ribs and doesn't go through your system like a
> flash in the pan. Flour and sugar products which are absorbed within the
> first few inches of your intestine leave me starving very soon after.
> Whole grains and starches that have enough fiber to slow the absorption
> rate will last you for hours, maybe even till the next real meal.
>
> Have a wonderful hike Jake!
>
> Shroomer
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jake Handy <jakers329 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I understand that my caloric needs will definitely rise during the day to
> > day hiking of a thru attempt, especially from that of my 2 to 3 day hikes
> > I'm used to. Can someone give me a snapshot of a typical day on the PCT of
> > what they ate, including specific foods/amounts? I realize that needs vary
> > with the weather and terrain, but an idea of your average day would help!
> > By the way.... I'm a fit 46 y/o guy.
> > Thanks!
> > Jake
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