[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 60, Issue 23

[greg mushial]

;-)  ;-(

Yet another fine example of: the ten most feared words in the English 
language:

                    I'm here from the government and here to help you.

;-(

TheDuck


> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:02:10 -0600
> From: Jackie McDonnell <yogihikes at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Canada issues
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> The "Application to Enter Canada via the PCT"  is something from the
> Canadian government.  This is for northbound hikers.  True, there are not
> Canadian agents waiting to accept your permit, and most hikers don't
> attempt to find their way to a Canadian immigration office to surrender 
> the
> permit.  Most hikers hike into Manning Park, then take a bus/train/plane
> back to the US.
>
> It's different for southbound hikers.
> The US government states that entering the US from Canada via the PCT is
> illegal.
> For the specifics, go here:  http://www.pcthandbook.com/links.php
>
> then click on:  USFS Notice Regarding Illegal PCT Southbound Entry from
> Canada
>
> Yogi
> www.pcthandbook.com
>
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 3:49 PM, David Thibault 
> <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The reason US immigration does not know what this form is, if you hand it
>> to them,  is because it is a Canadian government form and has nothing to 
>> do
>> with US immigration - it has to do with Canadian immigration.  US
>> Immigration doesn't really care how you got into Canada, they just are
>> concerned about whether you are allowed into the US.
>>
>> Most people getting this permit don't seem to fully understand that it is
>> from the "Canadian Government" giving you, a non-Canadian citizen, the
>> permission to enter Canada on the PCT. The "US Government" has nothing to
>> do with this permission - the US Government will not give permission to
>> anyone to enter the US via the PCT - even US citizens. Actually the US
>> Government has complained to Canada about allowing folks to entering 
>> Canada
>> in this way as they consider it insecure.
>>
>> Unfortunately I foresee no change in the US government policy about
>> entering the US via the PCT on a preapproved basis as this current
>> reasonable Canadian policy now allows.  IMHO the paranoia or just normal
>> bureaucratic tendencies of the US Government are never going to tend 
>> toward
>> reasonableness on this issue.
>>
>> Day-Late
>>
>>
>>
>> > That Canadian entry permit that your supposed to surrender upon 
>> > arrival?
>> >
>> > If you fly home from Vancouver, you go through US customs there, not
>> > when you land in the US.  There's no Canadian involvement.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.yvr.ca/en/navigating-yvr/customs-immigration/us-customs-border-protection.aspx
>> >
>> > As has been stated many times before, this thing is hard to get rid
>> > of.  US customs knows nothing about the entry permit.  I offered mine
>> > up, and the agent said he'd never heard of it, but would pass it
>> > along.
>> >
>> > ..
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