[pct-l] First required place for bear canister

Sat Feb 19 10:15:46 CST 2011

Im sorry guys,but the era of bears is slipping faster than we can do
anything about. If humans dont start with population control(hello!)
and a vast improvment in pollution control NOW,WE are doomed,but the
bears will fall first,along with everything us hikers love. I hate to
go here on a fine sat morning,but humans stank,and sometimes its hard
to call myself one(shame). Sorry,this weather has me thinking doom and
gloom,cheer up dang it.

On 2/18/11, dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com> wrote:
> Kevin - we do have lots of bears and lions you just don't see them much
> because they associate humans with death and not food which makes for a much
> heather relationship for both. The lions are like ghosts, but they are here.
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> If you start see either of these allot here they have either been fed by
> someone or are sick.  Also, in sever drought times they will come into more
> populated areas looking for water. We have had both in Phoenix.  Yes they do
> live in the desert also.
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> I am a 50 year native if it matters.
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> I hope you get to see one sometime, just not in your tent.
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> Happy Hiking.
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> From: Kevin Cook [mailto:hikelite at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:52 AM
> To: dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com
> Cc: Edward Anderson; Scott Williams; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister
>
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> A healthy population of Bears in AZ? Where?
>
> I'm in Flagstaff. I've heard people say they are around, but I've seen no
> trace of them the nearly 10 years I've been here.
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds like CA needs some more bear hunters.  We really don't have those
> bear problems in AZ, they are hunted and we have a very healthy population
> of these wonderful animals.  Same goes for the mountain lions.
>
> Just a thought.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Edward Anderson
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:05 AM
> To: Scott Williams
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister
>
> There are reported resident bears at both Joshua Tree Spring and at Golden
> Oak
> Spring.  I camped at both locations.
>
>  At JTS, when I arrived in 2008, as I dismounted Primo,  a bear was coming
> down
> the hill , with resolve, to greet us.  I made a quick decision to
> immediately go
> on the offensive.  I picked up a couple of rocks and ran towards the bear
> and
> shouted at the top of my loudest and angriest voice - " BEAR, GET OUT OF
> HERE -
> GO, GO!"  I thru the rocks in his direction.  He turned and ran back up the
> hill as fast as I have ever seen a bear run.  I set up camp, put out my bear
>
> charms and had a good nights sleep.  The water is good there with a little
> grass
> for Primo.
>
> When Jerry Stone and his crew of volunteers fixed the flow of Golden Oak
> Spring
> early in 2008, they had camped above the spring at a place that had some
> grass.
> He cautioned me that there were problem bears there.  I camped there and saw
>
> none. I had put out my bear charms. Rockstar also camped there that night.
>
> As far as I know, Bear Canisters are not required until you get into the
> Sierra
> National Parks.  And then only in designated areas. This summer I plan to
> ride
> SOBO from Sierra City to either Horsershoe Meadows or Kennedy Meadows.  I
> will
> bring Canisters the entire distance and also use OpSaks.
>
> Schroomer,  I will pick mushrooms and eat lots of trout and think of you.  I
>
> will be taking my time.  In the backcountry I cook trout three ways:  I fry
> them
> after coating with Shake & Bake (I use peanut Oil),  If I am below 10,000'
> I
> cook them on coals wrapped in aluminum foil,  I make Trout Stew - delicious!
>
> MendoRider/Ed Anderson
> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> To: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; enyapjr at comcast.net
> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 9:10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister
>
> Plain Slice and Little Engine have bear claw holes in the mosquito netting
> of their tent courtesy of a juvenile delinquent bear, because they attempted
> to camp at Joshua Tree Spring.  Coolest tent decorations on anybodies tent I
> saw all summer as you can really see the spread of the bears claws.  It was
> always quite a tourist destination for newcomers to our camps who marveled
> at the holes they had stitched up with yarn.
>
> Yogi warns against camping here, and although you'll need the water by that
> point, and it's a really nice looking camp, the fresh bear scat all around
> was enough to make it clear that it is Mr. Bruin's territory, and not ours.
>
> Shroomer
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Jim & Jane Moody
> <moodyjj at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>>
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>> It's not required, but I suggest you consider picking it up at Walker
>> Pass.  One or more bears hang around Joshua Tree Spring and Spanish
> Fingers
>> creek, looking for a free lunch.
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