[pct-l] First required place for bear canister

Fri Feb 18 13:07:35 CST 2011

Kevin - we do have lots of bears and lions you just don't see them much
because they associate humans with death and not food which makes for a much
heather relationship for both. The lions are like ghosts, but they are here.

If you start see either of these allot here they have either been fed by
someone or are sick.  Also, in sever drought times they will come into more
populated areas looking for water. We have had both in Phoenix.  Yes they do
live in the desert also.

I am a 50 year native if it matters.

I hope you get to see one sometime, just not in your tent.

Happy Hiking.

  _____  

From: Kevin Cook [mailto:hikelite at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:52 AM
To: dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com
Cc: Edward Anderson; Scott Williams; pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister

A healthy population of Bears in AZ? Where?

I'm in Flagstaff. I've heard people say they are around, but I've seen no
trace of them the nearly 10 years I've been here.

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com> wrote:

Sounds like CA needs some more bear hunters.  We really don't have those
bear problems in AZ, they are hunted and we have a very healthy population
of these wonderful animals.  Same goes for the mountain lions.

Just a thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Edward Anderson
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:05 AM
To: Scott Williams
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net

Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister

There are reported resident bears at both Joshua Tree Spring and at Golden
Oak
Spring.  I camped at both locations. 

 At JTS, when I arrived in 2008, as I dismounted Primo,  a bear was coming
down
the hill , with resolve, to greet us.  I made a quick decision to
immediately go
on the offensive.  I picked up a couple of rocks and ran towards the bear
and
shouted at the top of my loudest and angriest voice - " BEAR, GET OUT OF
HERE -
GO, GO!"  I thru the rocks in his direction.  He turned and ran back up the
hill as fast as I have ever seen a bear run.  I set up camp, put out my bear

charms and had a good nights sleep.  The water is good there with a little
grass
for Primo.

When Jerry Stone and his crew of volunteers fixed the flow of Golden Oak
Spring
early in 2008, they had camped above the spring at a place that had some
grass. 
He cautioned me that there were problem bears there.  I camped there and saw

none. I had put out my bear charms. Rockstar also camped there that night.

As far as I know, Bear Canisters are not required until you get into the
Sierra
National Parks.  And then only in designated areas. This summer I plan to
ride
SOBO from Sierra City to either Horsershoe Meadows or Kennedy Meadows.  I
will
bring Canisters the entire distance and also use OpSaks.

Schroomer,  I will pick mushrooms and eat lots of trout and think of you.  I

will be taking my time.  In the backcountry I cook trout three ways:  I fry
them
after coating with Shake & Bake (I use peanut Oil),  If I am below 10,000' 
I
cook them on coals wrapped in aluminum foil,  I make Trout Stew - delicious!

MendoRider/Ed Anderson
From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
To: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; enyapjr at comcast.net
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 9:10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister

Plain Slice and Little Engine have bear claw holes in the mosquito netting
of their tent courtesy of a juvenile delinquent bear, because they attempted
to camp at Joshua Tree Spring.  Coolest tent decorations on anybodies tent I
saw all summer as you can really see the spread of the bears claws.  It was
always quite a tourist destination for newcomers to our camps who marveled
at the holes they had stitched up with yarn.

Yogi warns against camping here, and although you'll need the water by that
point, and it's a really nice looking camp, the fresh bear scat all around
was enough to make it clear that it is Mr. Bruin's territory, and not ours.

Shroomer

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Jim & Jane Moody
<moodyjj at comcast.net>wrote:

>
>
> It's not required, but I suggest you consider picking it up at Walker
> Pass.  One or more bears hang around Joshua Tree Spring and Spanish
Fingers
> creek, looking for a free lunch.
>
>
>
>
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