[pct-l] First required place for bear canister

Sat Feb 19 11:36:38 CST 2011

BUT I SO AGREE WITH YOU.  YET U HEAR ALMOST NOTHING ON POPULATION CONTROL

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Im sorry guys,but the era of bears is slipping faster than we can do
> anything about. If humans dont start with population control(hello!)
> and a vast improvment in pollution control NOW,WE are doomed,but the
> bears will fall first,along with everything us hikers love. I hate to
> go here on a fine sat morning,but humans stank,and sometimes its hard
> to call myself one(shame). Sorry,this weather has me thinking doom and
> gloom,cheer up dang it.
>
> On 2/18/11, dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com>
> wrote:
> > Kevin - we do have lots of bears and lions you just don't see them much
> > because they associate humans with death and not food which makes for a
> much
> > heather relationship for both. The lions are like ghosts, but they are
> here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If you start see either of these allot here they have either been fed by
> > someone or are sick.  Also, in sever drought times they will come into
> more
> > populated areas looking for water. We have had both in Phoenix.  Yes they
> do
> > live in the desert also.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am a 50 year native if it matters.
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope you get to see one sometime, just not in your tent.
> >
> >
> >
> > Happy Hiking.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: Kevin Cook [mailto:hikelite at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:52 AM
> > To: dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com
> > Cc: Edward Anderson; Scott Williams; pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister
> >
> >
> >
> > A healthy population of Bears in AZ? Where?
> >
> > I'm in Flagstaff. I've heard people say they are around, but I've seen no
> > trace of them the nearly 10 years I've been here.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like CA needs some more bear hunters.  We really don't have those
> > bear problems in AZ, they are hunted and we have a very healthy
> population
> > of these wonderful animals.  Same goes for the mountain lions.
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:
> pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> > On Behalf Of Edward Anderson
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:05 AM
> > To: Scott Williams
> > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister
> >
> > There are reported resident bears at both Joshua Tree Spring and at
> Golden
> > Oak
> > Spring.  I camped at both locations.
> >
> >  At JTS, when I arrived in 2008, as I dismounted Primo,  a bear was
> coming
> > down
> > the hill , with resolve, to greet us.  I made a quick decision to
> > immediately go
> > on the offensive.  I picked up a couple of rocks and ran towards the bear
> > and
> > shouted at the top of my loudest and angriest voice - " BEAR, GET OUT OF
> > HERE -
> > GO, GO!"  I thru the rocks in his direction.  He turned and ran back up
> the
> > hill as fast as I have ever seen a bear run.  I set up camp, put out my
> bear
> >
> > charms and had a good nights sleep.  The water is good there with a
> little
> > grass
> > for Primo.
> >
> > When Jerry Stone and his crew of volunteers fixed the flow of Golden Oak
> > Spring
> > early in 2008, they had camped above the spring at a place that had some
> > grass.
> > He cautioned me that there were problem bears there.  I camped there and
> saw
> >
> > none. I had put out my bear charms. Rockstar also camped there that
> night.
> >
> > As far as I know, Bear Canisters are not required until you get into the
> > Sierra
> > National Parks.  And then only in designated areas. This summer I plan to
> > ride
> > SOBO from Sierra City to either Horsershoe Meadows or Kennedy Meadows.  I
> > will
> > bring Canisters the entire distance and also use OpSaks.
> >
> > Schroomer,  I will pick mushrooms and eat lots of trout and think of you.
>  I
> >
> > will be taking my time.  In the backcountry I cook trout three ways:  I
> fry
> > them
> > after coating with Shake & Bake (I use peanut Oil),  If I am below
> 10,000'
> > I
> > cook them on coals wrapped in aluminum foil,  I make Trout Stew -
> delicious!
> >
> > MendoRider/Ed Anderson
> > From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
> > To: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; enyapjr at comcast.net
> > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 9:10:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister
> >
> > Plain Slice and Little Engine have bear claw holes in the mosquito
> netting
> > of their tent courtesy of a juvenile delinquent bear, because they
> attempted
> > to camp at Joshua Tree Spring.  Coolest tent decorations on anybodies
> tent I
> > saw all summer as you can really see the spread of the bears claws.  It
> was
> > always quite a tourist destination for newcomers to our camps who
> marveled
> > at the holes they had stitched up with yarn.
> >
> > Yogi warns against camping here, and although you'll need the water by
> that
> > point, and it's a really nice looking camp, the fresh bear scat all
> around
> > was enough to make it clear that it is Mr. Bruin's territory, and not
> ours.
> >
> > Shroomer
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Jim & Jane Moody
> > <moodyjj at comcast.net>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> It's not required, but I suggest you consider picking it up at Walker
> >> Pass.  One or more bears hang around Joshua Tree Spring and Spanish
> > Fingers
> >> creek, looking for a free lunch.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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