[pct-l] Snow shoes-recommendation
CHUCK CHELIN
steeleye at wildblue.net
Thu Nov 4 22:35:31 CDT 2010
Good evening, Trackz Man,
I have several pairs of snowshoes which I like, but for serious hiking I use
the Northern-Lites Quicksilver-30 that can be seen at:
http://www.northernlites.com/backcountry.php#quicksilver30
There’s also a photo of them at:
http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?trailname=4645 taken during a
training hike.
Enjoy,
Steel-Eye
Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965
http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:29 PM, <dougearly at aol.com> wrote:
>
> I am planning on doing a trip thru the Three Sisters Wilderness Area in a
> couple of weeks. We already have about 18-24" of snow up there. I was
> wondering of a good recommendation of snowshoes, so that I can practice for
> the PCT if I need them. We should be getting more snow soon, so I would plan
> on about 24-36" of snow tops- I know that walking thru would be too deep but
> snowshoes would work. Does anyone know how much mileage you can expect to
> achieve with snow shoes? I know there are plenty of variables, but a
> guideline.
>
> I am also doing this to test my winter gear for a thru PCT hike.
>
> trackz man
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> 1. Re: Trail workers/thru-hikers (giniajim)
> 2. Re: Are the trails easy to follow without relying on a map?
> Seeking Hiking companion (Eugene Leafty)
> 3. Re: Trail workers/thru-hikers (Jim & Jane Moody)
> 4. Re: Trail workers/thru-hikers (giniajim)
> 5. Re: Trail workers/thru-hikers (Kevin Cook)
> 6. Re: Winter Hiking the Desert Section (Ernie Castillo)
> 7. Thanking the trail crews (Jim Banks)
> 8. Re: Trail workers/thru-hikers (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
> 9. McNuggets Don't Spoil? (bighummel at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> ate: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:15:47 -0400
> rom: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> ubject: Re: [pct-l] Trail workers/thru-hikers
> o: "Kevin Cook" <hikelite at gmail.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> essage-ID: <50040C316D044A4A92DF6EFFBD147A3C at HomePC>
> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> If a passing hiker offered me a "friendship bracelet" I would either
> decline it
> r think "geez, now something else I've got to carry out to the trash".
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Cook
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail workers/thru-hikers
>
> I want to give them a gift in ADDITION to my expressions of gratitude. I
> always stop and talk to trail workers when I come across them. I don't
> expect to be in such a hurry on the PCT that I will have to change that
> behavior. If I can't stop to talk to those folks, then there's something
> going wrong with my hike! LOL
> I kinda like the friendship bracelet idea. They are lite. They are also
> something they could keep as a reminder. On the other hand, I don't wear
> things like that. I imagine someone like me might appreciate the gesture,
> but then feel guilty if they didn't keep the item. I suppose it could be
> hung on a pack or something if they don't want to wear it. How about
> something like this?
>
> http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=80&Itemid=49
> Now we're getting somewhere! Now it's something useful too! How many folks
> are in a typical trail crew? 6, 12, 20? How many crews might I see along
> the
> way? I just want an idea of how many to make. Maybe I'll bring extra cord
> and make them along the way?
> @ Jim and Mike,
> I had the same thought. They have more supplies than I do, so that's why I
> was worried that a piece of candy would not mean much to them since they
> probably have more than I do. That's why I'm really liking this bracelet
> idea. Cheap, easy, lightweight, and a useful item to have in the
> backcountry.
> What does everyone think? If you were a trail crew, would you appreciate
> something like this?
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Mike Cunningham <hikermiker at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> > While out working on a trail I have found that a sincere thank you from
> a
> > hiker is enough to lift my spirits.
> >
> > I have also found that trail workers tend to be better supplied than
> hikers
> > and are more apt to have goodies with them.
> >
> > on the other hand as a hiker I always make an effort to sincerely thank
> any
> > trail workers for their efforts & let them know it is appreciated.
> >
> > hm
> >
> > --- On *Tue, 11/2/10, Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail workers/thru-hikers
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 1:47 PM
> >
> >
> > In response to this thread, I have a question for those who do trail
> > maintenance, on the PCT, or elsewhere.
> >
> > If I wanted to bring some token to show my appreciation, when I come
> across
> > a trail worker, what would you recommend? I was thinking a candy bar or
> > something. I usually carry some mini candy bars when I hike, so I was
> > thinking I would just try to make sure I always have a few extras with
> me
> > to
> > hand out. Do you think that would be appreciated by a trail worker, or
> > could
> > it be taken as trivializing their efforts. I want to tell them thank you
> in
> > some way that would be meaningful. The thought of handing them money
> seems
> > tacky to me. I don't want to carry something real heavy obviously, so
> any
> > other ideas?
> >
> > I'd also like to take this opportunity to express my deep thanks to
> > everyone
> > who has helped build the PCT. Thank you!
> >
> > --
> > ~ Kevin
> > Soon To Be PCT Thru Hiker!
> > "The indoor life is the next best thing to premature burial." Edward
> Abbey
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, <abiegen at cox.net<
> http://us.mc517.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=abiegen@cox.net>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I was surprised to see the comments about the conflict between hikers
> and
> > > trail workers. This year while hiking with Wimbledon and Carrol we
> came
> > > across a group of trail workers. We made sure to stop and let them
> know
> > that
> > > we appreciated the work that they were doing. Chatted with them for
> > several
> > > minutes. I do a lot of trail work where I live - or at least used to
> do
> > a
> > > lot before arthritis in my shoulder slowed me down - so I appreciate
> the
> > > work and know how important it is to let the workers know that their
> work
> > is
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > TRASH!=JERK
> > >
> > > There are a few possibilities that I can picture:
> > >
> > > 1. If the thru-hikers were tired and the work was being done on a long
> > > uphill, they may have worn down and not been in best spirits and best
> > > behavior. Also some thru-hikers are racing against the clock. If the
> work
> > is
> > > being done in a way that holds the hiker up and they are trying to get
> to
> > > the PO before it closes, they may not be in the best mood. Like in
> Real
> > > Estate - it could be about location, location, location.
> > >
> > > 2. I know that the FS standard for steps is the perfect height for
> stock
> > -
> > > I call them horse steps. As a hiker, I feel that they are a little too
> > high
> > > for hiking. I'm not that crazy about them but I wouldn't complain to a
> > trail
> > > worker about them and in many cases they are better than no steps.
> > Perhaps
> > > someone was not overjoyed to see more added.
> > >
> > > 3. There is the possibility that there are a few jerks out there. I
> > didn't
> > > meet any but that doesn't mean that they don't exist.
> > >
> > > 4. Since the complaint came from only one person maybe it was an
> outlier
> > > where that one person had their own issues that were being projected
> on
> > the
> > > thru-hikers.
> > >
> > > I would be interested in hearing from other trail workers. One point
> of
> > > data is not enough to really understand if there is a real issue or
> not.
> > I
> > > am suspicious that this person put off all hiking on the PCT because
> of
> > this
> > > - there must me more to it than we are hearing. You don't hear of
> someone
> > > giving up driving because there are jerks out there. Why would you
> give
> > up
> > > something that you say you love because of a few bad apples? Very
> > strange.
> > >
> > > TrailHacker
> > >
> > > "When my feet hurt, I can't think straight"
> > > Abraham Lincoln
> > >
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> --
> ~ Kevin
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> "The indoor life is the next best thing to premature burial." Edward Abbey
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> Message: 2
> ate: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:18:06 -0700
> rom: Eugene Leafty <atetuna at hotmail.com>
> ubject: Re: [pct-l] Are the trails easy to follow without relying on
> a map? Seeking Hiking companion
> o: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> essage-ID: <SNT110-DS9C16B65718DCFE4DFC85CB1490 at phx.gbl>
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> Snow has fallen a couple times in southern California already. It's not
> ticking, but it will stick long before you'd get past it. It's not easy to
> ollow a trail when you can't see it and you have no map. It could go bad.
> t has before. John Donovan. Snow. San Jacinto. Bad maps. No compass.
> trayed from the PCT. Bad decisions. Dead. I'm not saying you can't do it,
> ut if you don't make it you'll be the idiot that died because you didn't do
> ommon sense things like bringing a map.
> -----Original Message-----
> rom: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> n Behalf Of Andres Guerrero
> ent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:23 PM
> o: pct-l at backcountry.net
> ubject: [pct-l] Are the trails easy to follow without relying on a map?
> eeking Hiking companion
> Namaste,
> Leaving from San Diego, going
> orthbound; not in a hurry to sojourn up north.
> Are their hikers
> ho depart in November?
> ust sound impetuous to an experienced hiker,
> yet I thrive on being unconventionally spontaneous.
> Aum Shanti
> hanti Friends
>
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> Message: 3
> ate: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:46:47 +0000 (UTC)
> rom: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> ubject: Re: [pct-l] Trail workers/thru-hikers
> o: Mike Cunningham <hikermiker at yahoo.com>
> c: pct-l at backcountry.net
> essage-ID:
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> 57609732.422064.1288727207930.JavaMail.root at sz0094a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net
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>
> I've done a little trail maintenence on the AT and have passed many other
> orkers while hiking.? Besides a "thank you", I think maintainers appreciate
> eing asked if we can take their picture.? Seeing yourself at work in some
> thru
> iker's journal a few days later is very gratifying.?
>
> Mango
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> rom: "Mike Cunningham" hikermiker at yahoo.com
> While out working on a trail?I have found that a sincere thank you from a
> hiker
> s enough to lift my spirits.
>
> have also found that trail workers tend to be better supplied than hikers
> and
> re more apt to have goodies with them.
>
> n the other hand as a hiker I always make an effort to sincerely thank any
> rail workers for their efforts?& let them know it is appreciated.
>
>
> -----------------------------
> Message: 4
> ate: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:47:24 -0400
> rom: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> ubject: Re: [pct-l] Trail workers/thru-hikers
> o: "Jim & Jane Moody" <moodyjj at comcast.net>, "Mike Cunningham"
> <hikermiker at yahoo.com>
> c: pct-l at backcountry.net
> essage-ID: <C06CF83C45CC4770909F361AA44527C8 at HomePC>
> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> That's a good one! Include them in your journal. Likes it!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim & Jane Moody
> To: Mike Cunningham
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail workers/thru-hikers
>
>
> I've done a little trail maintenence on the AT and have passed many other
> orkers while hiking. Besides a "thank you", I think maintainers appreciate
> eing asked if we can take their picture. Seeing yourself at work in some
> thru
> iker's journal a few days later is very gratifying.
>
> Mango
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Cunningham" hikermiker at yahoo.com
> While out working on a trail I have found that a sincere thank you from a
> iker is enough to lift my spirits.
> I have also found that trail workers tend to be better supplied than
> hikers
> nd are more apt to have goodies with them.
> on the other hand as a hiker I always make an effort to sincerely thank
> any
> rail workers for their efforts & let them know it is appreciated.
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> Message: 5
> ate: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:00:48 -0700
> rom: Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com>
> ubject: Re: [pct-l] Trail workers/thru-hikers
> o: "Jim & Jane Moody" <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> c: pct-l at backcountry.net
> essage-ID:
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> I like this idea too! Talk about lightweight! Carrying a couple extra
> ictures doesn't change the weight of my pack at all! :)
> So nobody likes the idea of the paracord survival version of the friendship
> racelet? I thought that was a good idea. Oh well :P
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net
> >wrote:
> > I've done a little trail maintenence on the AT and have passed many other
> workers while hiking. Besides a "thank you", I think maintainers
> appreciate
> being asked if we can take their picture. Seeing yourself at work in some
> thru hiker's journal a few days later is very gratifying.
>
>
>
> Mango
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Cunningham" hikermiker at yahoo.com
>
> While out working on a trail I have found that a sincere thank you from a
> hiker is enough to lift my spirits.
>
> I have also found that trail workers tend to be better supplied than
> hikers
> and are more apt to have goodies with them.
>
> on the other hand as a hiker I always make an effort to sincerely thank
> any
> trail workers for their efforts & let them know it is appreciated.
>
>
>
> --
> Kevin
> oon To Be PCT Thru Hiker!
> The indoor life is the next best thing to premature burial." Edward Abbey
>
> -----------------------------
> Message: 6
> ate: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 16:03:02 -0400
> rom: Ernie Castillo <erniec01 at hotmail.com>
> ubject: Re: [pct-l] Winter Hiking the Desert Section
> o: <minesbernard at yahoo.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> essage-ID: <COL112-W2923203DF55D4ECBE98CF9D8490 at phx.gbl>
> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> grew up in Victorville, which is approximately equal distance (in
> thru-hiker
> stimates) from Big Bear, Wrightwood, and Cajon Pass. I also hiked the PCT
> in
> 980 so I can offer an opinion on the topic.
>
> inters in the High Desert section can be extremely cold. Consider that the
> wind
> lows down from the mountains and you can imagine why. So if you are going
> to
> ike the desert section in winter, dress warmly.
>
> nd I am only talking about the desert section, not the mountainous sections
> of
> he PCT. If you are going to hike in the San Jacinto, San Gabriel, and
> Angeles
> orest areas plan for cold and snow.
>
> rnie Castillo, one of those crazy guys who kept swapping hiking partners
> and
> ecame known as the Revolving Ramen for this habit as much as their diet,
> PCT
> lass of 1980
>
>
> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 15:03:41 -0700
> From: minesbernard at yahoo.com
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Winter Hiking the Desert Section
>
> I'd be curiuos to hear educated opinions about hiking the desert section
> in
> inter.
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> ate: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:05:18 -0700
> rom: "Jim Banks" <jbanks4 at socal.rr.com>
> ubject: [pct-l] Thanking the trail crews
> o: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> essage-ID: <001801cb7ac9$45d78b00$d186a100$@rr.com>
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> A thank you and a brief chat are always nice, but the most important thing
> ou can do to thank trail crews is to commit to join a trail crew yourself.
> The trail needs all the volunteers it can get.
>
> I-Beam
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Message: 8
> ate: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:16:25 -0700
> rom: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> ubject: Re: [pct-l] Trail workers/thru-hikers
> o: pct-l at backcountry.net
> essage-ID:
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>
> n Nov 2, 2010, at 12:14 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> I want to give them a gift in ADDITION to my expressions of gratitude.
> I did a section hike in the Liebres last spring and there happened to
> e a trail working crew there at Sawmill camp. They were looking for
> hru-hikers to invite to dinner and a campfire. They let me hang out
> ven though I wasn't a thru-hiker.
> From talking with them for a while, I'm pretty certain that if they
> ere to choose any gift under the sun, what they would probably like
> ost of all is a donation to the PCTA so that they can do more
> olunteer work trips like this.
> Diane
>
> ------------------------------
> Message: 9
> ate: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:45:38 -0400
> rom: bighummel at aol.com
> ubject: [pct-l] McNuggets Don't Spoil?
> o: pct-l at backcountry.net
> essage-ID: <8CD48EE6C3D86C4-23EC-264F at webmail-m060.sysops.aol.com>
> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> My co-worker just told me that, apparently, McNuggets don't spoil over
> extended
> eriods of time. Can anyone confirm this? Sounds like another great trail
> food!
>
> reg Hummel
>
> Carry on, love is coming, love is coming to us all"
> CSN
>
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