[pct-l] Ice Axe

[Paul Robison]

Ned,

if you mind be probing your expertise... 
...  how d othey determine the rankings?   is grade 'B' adequate for self arrest 
accd. to them...?  ...obviously i'm not climbing frozen waterfalls;  but it does 
feel comforting if the professionals say  "yup,  this'll do"

... what does it take to become grade A or AA?  not sure how the grading system 
works.

thanks for your time,

~Paul




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From: "ned at mountaineducation.org" <ned at mountaineducation.org>
To: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>; Lisa Freathy 
<rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>; pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 6:12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ice Axe

Upon closer examination, the Camp Corsa is UIAA and CE certified as "B" or 
strong enough for basic mountaineering uses. So now the question is "how long 
for me?" and the answer comes from how tall you are, how much anchor penetration 
do you want out of the shaft, and how long the shaft needs to be to accomplish a 
safe and efficient self-arrest position across the chest?



"Just remember, Be Careful out there!"

Ned Tibbits, Director
Mountain Education
1106A Ski Run Blvd
South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
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   F: 530-541-1456
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  http://www.mountaineducation.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Robison" <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
To: "Lisa Freathy" <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>; "pct-l" 
<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Ice Axe


> ULA took the helix off their websight,  do people know if it's still 
available?
> ...by far the lightest 'axe' out there...  and by far the heaviest potty 
trowel
> = )
> 
> ...  my camp corsa is plenty strong, but what others have said about the head
> being super lightweight is true,  and is a PITA sometimes.  but,  it is a lot
> lighter than my black diamond;  and i don't doubt it's strength if it ever 
came
> to a life saving arrest.
> 
> 
> ~Paul
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 11:09:22 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Ice Axe
> 
> Time to starting looking at ice axes... what are you all carrying with you out
> there? I'm thinking about the ULA Helix...
> 
> Thanks!
> Lisa
> 
> 
> "Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and 
>climb
> 
> a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
> ~ John Muir
> 
> 
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