[pct-l] Just going to put this out there for Metzger to consider

[Bill]

It has been a while since someone took the crown.  I have not seen a post
more against the Hike Your Own Hike philosophy in quite some time.   What a
self-righteous, indignant, arrogant spew that was. I forgot who had the
crown last, but if you still have it could you pass it to Stephen?

If you want to hike with a phone, hike with a phone, if you want a TV, bring
it, if you like gadgets because they entertain your brain, so be it.  They
are not all for me, but who firkin cares.  Our great ancestors hiked
bare-foot without sil, gortex, down, nylon, socks, esbits, titanium.  So
until someone gets back to dragging their naked ass across the desert
without the use of a trail or maps and eats with they find or kill . . .
the "purists" have nothing to brag about.  All this stack ranking and
comparison is ugly human stuff.  

Unfortunately this list is not what it used to be.  It used to be about 80%
useful dialog and 20% "witty comments".   Now it is inverted.  I am a
jokester by my nature.  So, I appreciate a quick snap.  For me, today the
list is too much snap and not enough straight line.

I promise only to end a sentence with LOL if I am literally laughing out
loud when I type it.  That is my little part.



-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen [mailto:reddirt2 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:23 PM
To: mark v; pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Just going to put this out there for Metzger to
consider

Learn what?  I figured one thing out that I learned reading most of the 
posts here, that hiking the PCT has become somewhat of a joke.  Is this list

here to baby folks along who probably shouldn't be out there to begin with? 
If you can't let a little verbal comment slide off because you disagree with

someone else's sense of humor I feel sorry for you.  I'd rather buy Reinhold

a beer near some Sierra trailhead this summer than try and get along with a 
bunch of sissies that can not leave home without an electronic umbilical 
coil, like GPS, sat phones, email etc, etc...  Makes me kinda wonder about 
some of you all.  Just because the trail is there does not necessarily mean 
everyone should be out there.  Next time a thru-hiker hits me up for a ride 
to town I'm gonna inquire if they have a phone and if so then suggest they 
call a cab.
I've read some good stuff here, most of it humor actually, but as far as 
actually helpful information regarding the PCT it's pretty thin with an 
awful amount of needles and repetitive information that is starting to 
irritate me to the point I figure to just turn it off any day now.  I think 
there are two people hiking currently I hope to meet, and that's about it.
Not a very good percentage in my book, not enough to intice me to want to 
hike along the trail and be a part of the flow and what's going on.  Nope, 
this list caused me to change my mind about the PCT, and the way people are 
approaching it.  Hike your own hike for sure, but please do it somewhere I 
don't have to associate with you all.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mark v" <allemande6 at yahoo.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 3:34 PM
Subject: [pct-l] Just going to put this out there for Metzger to consider


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> This will probably get ME banned, but i'll consider it a favor.
>
> Metzger (and 1 or 2 other post-ers, maximum), as part of the class of 08, 
> i'd like to let you know that to those that i hiked with and met, your 
> posts make this otherwise worthwhile listserv an absolute joke.  All 
> summer long, the mere mention of PCT-L made EVERY hiker shake their head 
> in dismay.  It's really hard to sift through the rubbish generated by you 
> (which remains in digest form, and in the posts of people who feel they 
> need to counter it with replies), even with you on ignore.  You may feel 
> that it's just JoAnn complaining, but i guarantee you it's not.  She's 
> just the one who cares enough to make the effort to type her complaint.
>
> The rest of us roll our eyes, and eventually give up on the list.  Thanks 
> for doing your part to ruin what could be a good resource for hikers 
> interested in the trail.  If you decide to keep up your act, the trail 
> will go on...just with one fewer place where one can go to learn about it.
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