[pct-l] Will I die using Fuel canisters?

[David Margavage]

I'll have one made by this weekend and give it a try.  Thanks.

On 1/29/09, Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Have you looked at these stove idea sites?
> http://www.csun.edu/~mjurey/penny.html
> and Zen
> http://zenstoves.net/CatCanStove.htm
> I made a penny stove in about thirty minutes start to light up.  Read the
> notes about "penny pop" as it is an issue and can cause lit alcohol to be
> sprayed and start a fire.  I got a kick out of it here at home but would not
> in the woods.  I have since corrected the problem on mine and I like it.
> Super light.  I'm going to make a cat stove soon and test this also.  I
> think it is good to give things a good test run before hand like my trying
> to light the trash can on fire. Hey, I empty those Heiniken cans somehow,
> and that's why the Penny became the alcoholic stove.  But like I said, I
> still need to test the Cat Stove, and I like the idea of the whicking
> fibreglass it uses.  The Penny is so light Iwould worry about knocking it
> over and spilling fuel whereas the Cat has a more substantial flat base
> area, and I supect more safe because of it.
> I'll be pisssed too...
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Margavage" <
> davidmargavage at gmail.com>
> To: "Tom Drewenskus (Tuxedo Technologies Group)" <v-todrew at microsoft.com>;
> <Pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Will I die using Fuel canisters?
>
>
> I already use a oven pan wind screen, I like the pie pan top idea to add to
> it.  I had planned to hike on the AT for training prior to the PCT, I need
> it for sure.  I'll add trying a cat stove to my training while I'm out on
> the AT to make it more interesting. If I die I'm going to be pissed ;-)
>
> On 1/29/09, Tom Drewenskus (Tuxedo Technologies Group) <
> v-todrew at microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>  David,
>>
>> Listen to Yogi.  She knows of what she speaks.  I was doubtful too, until
>> I
>> did a comparison of lightweight stoves.
>>
>>
>>
>> For a solo thru hiker, the cat stove is the only one needed.  It is the
>> lightest AND most efficient option.  I have tested several different pop
>> can, double-wall, pressurized, and unpressurized stoves. I have used an
>> MSR
>> Whisperlite for the last 25 years, and I switched.  Here are the stats for
>> the cat stove:
>>
>> ·         Weight of cat stove, pot stand, and MSR Whisperlite windscreen =
>> 2.6 oz
>>
>> ·         Boils 2 cups of cold water in 7 minutes.  Only .6 oz of
>> denatured alcohol used at this point.  I know because I extinguish the
>> flame
>> and pour the remainder back into my fuel bottle.  Some hikers are
>> concerned
>> about the 7 minutes to boil 2 cups of water, but what's the big hurray. It
>> is not about cooking speed, but rather efficiency and weight.
>>
>> ·         Will continue to burn for another 6.5 minutes on the remainder
>> of the 1 oz of fuel.
>>
>>
>>
>> You cannot beat the cat stove for efficiency, weight, reliability, cost,
>> size, or sturdiness.  And denatured alcohol is available almost everywhere
>> near the PCT.  What more could a thru hiker want?
>>
>>
>>
>> As for eating cold food, you can avoid this by getting a copper bottom 1.3
>> liter Texsport pot with nesting handles.  It will keep your food hot for
>> ~20
>> minutes in the pot while eating. The stainless steel is easy to clean.
>> Weight is 5.8 oz after the lid is replaced with a pie plate cut to size,
>> and
>> aluminum tape for a lid handle.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck on your thru hike this year.  I'll be out there too.
>>
>>
>>
>> By The Book
>>
>> PCT 2006, 2009
>>
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>> I've been on the L a few times asking about where to resupply fuel
>> canisters. I received a few responses. So I "broke down" and got YOGI.
>> Yes, it is very good reading and planning information. I'm glad I got it.
>> It
>> has sections reviewing different types of shoes, socks, packs, bags, pads,
>> food, cook pots, etc. BUT, when it comes to stoves there is ONLY one in
>> YOGI, "Alcohol Stoves." Nothing else! Not one comment regarding canisters
>> or any other type of stove. Is there a secret socity of the West I'm not
>> privy to? Will I die using a fuel canister or worse yet eat cold ramens? I
>> promise I won't tell anyone here in the EAST ;-)
>>
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