[pct-l] jet boil

Sun Dec 6 07:30:16 CST 2009

My experience with alcohol stoves is much different from others on this list.

I guess I've had good alcohol stove designs. I've owned a few.
I can get a rolling boil with 1 liter in approx. 10 minutes depending
on weather conditions. I do this on one filling.

I have never had alcohol stoves flair up, explode or any of the other
stories I've heard.

I experienced many issues with cannister stoves. They have gaskets,
valves and other fidgety things that leak, break, wear out and need
occasional maintenance and parts.

I have seen major flare ups from a leaky gasket or valve.

A beer can stove doesn't need any maintenance, no parts, gaskets,
valves, ... to wear out.

 Cannisters can only be purchased at outfitters. Alcohol can be had at
hardware stores, auto parts stores, supermarkets, ....

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Bastian Schlagowsky
<bastian.schlagowsky at web.de> wrote:
> Think that's exactly the Point. I used an alcohol stove in 07 but was
> hiking with a couple in wet Washington (Sundog & Giggles) and when we
> were sitting in our tents in the pooring rain and the temperature was
> below freezing point I wished to have a Jetboil everytime I heard that
> blubb from them starting it inside their tent to make some hot
> chocolate. I got one at home but wouldn't use it when hiking alone...
> FreeRefill from cold and rainy Berlin
>
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> Am 06.12.2009 um 04:01 schrieb Bill Burge <bill at burge.com>:
>
>>
>> I own a Jetboil and have played with an alcohol stove a little.  It
>> was not the best choice in an alcohol stove, so I won't go into THOSE
>> results.
>>
>> One of the important things that David mentions, and I don't want it
>> to get lost, is that the Jetboil fit his style of cooking; but ALSO,
>> it was being used for TWO people.
>>
>> I don't know if I would recommend the weight of the Jetboil over the
>> alcohol cook kits out there for a SOLO hiker, but it makes for an
>> interesting comparison if you are cooking for two.  It boils the right
>> amount of water, IN ONE PASS, for two dinners.
>>
>> Is there any alcohol stove that can boil a quart of water in one fuel
>> fill?  No really, I'm curious; my girlfriend and I are working towards
>> a PCT hike in 2011 and there's two of us.  (Unless she's a figment of
>> my imagination.  Have to talk to my therapist about that one...  ;-)
>> We're also planning our meals the same way David did theirs...
>>
>> BillB
>>
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 1:24 PM, David Ellzey wrote:
>>
>>> We used a JetBoil PCS last year on our section hikes (600miles) and
>>> really enjoyed it for how we prepare meals. First, we only use it
>>> for dinners, all other food was consumed cold. Second, we use
>>> freezer bag cooking (FBC) meaning that all our meals are prepared in
>>> advance and dehydrated so all we need to do is boil water (4 cups
>>> for the 2 meals) pour in into the bags, put those in cozies and let
>>> it rehydrate. So, about 3 minutes to boil the water and 8 minutes to
>>> rehydrate the food and we were eating. Clean up was a matter of
>>> rolling up the bags and pressing the ziplocks.
>>>
>>> Using this method we got almost 2 weeks use out of the small 100g
>>> fuel canisters. The stove is about 15oz but it is a piece of shared
>>> gear between us so overall it is a really light solution for a
>>> couple. Also, I don't know about using it to actually cook instead
>>> of rehydrate, it seems like it would go through a lot of fuel but I
>>> don't have experience with that. There is a 230g canister available
>>> but it of course weighs more.
>>>
>>> The only part on the stove that we have to be careful with was the
>>> starter but I think the new flash model redesigned that part. If
>>> fact, aside from color that seems to be the only significant
>>> difference on the new model.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> BigToe
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-
>>> bounces at backcountry.net
>>> ] On Behalf Of canoeman at qnet.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:09 PM
>>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>>> Subject: [pct-l] jet boil
>>>
>>>
>>> anyone have any experience with the jetboil stove, in particular,
>>> the new flash
>>> model.
>>>
>>> canoeman
>>>
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