[pct-l] Holcomb Creek crossing Detour

[Bill & Cathy]

"How's Your Trail"?   Why did the USFS close the trail because of a burn 
area? Is there some danger there? I've walked through a few burn areas in 
the past, just got real dirty.  Remember "Be Prepared"  Ground Pounder Bill 
"Semper Fi"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shutterbug steiner" <shutterbugg313 at yahoo.com>
To: "Will M" <jalan04 at gmail.com>; "pct" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Holcomb Creek crossing Detour


> Since the trail is closed in that area and no one has officially 
> designated the reroute you will get no clear answers..  As for water --  
> I'd not be concerned with H20 middle May.  We have had a nice winter and 
> snow will still be melting, Holcomb creek will be roaring, and springs 
> will be flowing.  I'd be more concerned with erosion and route finding.  I 
> doubt whether the Trail Gorillas or the Forest Service will be about to 
> get in to even evaluate the situation until later this spring.
>
>  Sorry for the ambigquity - I live near there and the word presently is 
> that things are still closed.
>
>  Go to the source and Call
>  Big Bear Ranger Station
> 41397 North Shore Drive, Highway 38
> P.O. Box 290
> Fawnskin, CA 92333
> (909) 382-2790 (voice)
> (909) 866-3233 (TTY)
>
>
> Will M <jalan04 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Sorry, I'm a little confused. Do you have the mile markers for this
> detour. My nearest calculation has a 20 mile section of trail being
> rerouted to 30 miles for a net gain of 10 miles. I know I'm off but I'm 
> not
> sure where.
>
> What's the water situation in that 30 mile stretch? I'm planning to do a
> section at the beginning of May so I'm trying to figure out the logistics.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On 3/18/08, Shutterbug steiner wrote:
>>
>> Actually it this area is officially still closed. They will be working on
>> the detour as soon as the snow melts which hopefully will be before the 
>> Thru
>> hiking season.
>>
>> Here is the C/P from the SBNF website.
>>
>> Pacific Crest Trail - Big Bear Area- The PCT will remain closed from the
>> 3N16/Holcomb Creek crossing on the west side (approx. 2 miles northeast 
>> of
>> Crab Flats), to 2N09 (Polique Canyon Rd.) . Little Bear Springs trail 
>> camp
>> is closed to public use, due to Butler 2 Fire.* *A PCT trail reroute is
>> being developed.
>>
>> There is a myriad of dirt roads between Polique Canyon and Crab Flats but
>> my guess of reroute would be most likely be to the south
>> 2N09
>> 2n71
>> 3n12
>> 3n14
>> 3n93
>>
>> or to the north
>> 2n09
>> 3n16
>> 3n08
>> 3n14
>> 3n97
>> 3n16
>>
>> Both of these reroutes would be through the burn area and would be
>> adding 20 or 30 miles with the middles getting near the PCT near Little 
>> Bear
>> Springs. Hopefully they will have the PCT open by mid May when the 
>> thruers
>> get here.
>>
>> If I was a betting man I'd guess they's choose the Southern Route to keep
>> the hikers closer to civilization but since I am not a betting man I'd 
>> say
>> there will be zero enforcement and most will stay on the PCT.
>>
>> SB
>>
>> *Will M * wrote:
>>
>> I noticed that the Water eport has a detour listed around the Holcomb
>> creek
>> area. Does anyone know if this detour is still in effect and how much
>> mileage it adds to the trail.
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