[pct-l] Was: Leaving List Now: Back On Track - Info requested on down pullovers

[Jack "Union" Haskel]

I have a friend that has a Skaha with a hood. I don't think that a
warmer 10 ounce jacket exists. Very pricy but an excellent choice.
Fabric choice is up to you. I have something in Quantum and it's
pretty good, but I don't have much to compare it to.

On 12/5/06, Mike Saenz <msaenz at mve-architects.com> wrote:
> I had the same issue last year and unsubscribed...but resubscribed
> shortly afterward because I've found the people, knowledge, experience
> and current trail beta invaluable.
>
> But I have learned to resist reading each and every post. I scan the
> subject line and if it is a topic of interest, I'll open it and read.
> Otherwise I delete it immediately.
>
> I find it interesting that most the sour posts and sniping occurs
> between about a month or two after the Thrus have completed their walks
> and a month or two before the KO. Call it cabin fever, or whatever. But
> when we're not focused on the next or current PCT hiking season, topics
> tend to wander...
>
> Anyway- back to the reason I resubscribed:
>
> I'm looking into a UL down pullover. Current fav: the Nunatak "skaha":
> http://www.nunatakusa.com/down_sweater_skaha.html
>
> I've been packing a comfy fleece soft shell, but at 21 ounces it's a bit
> weighty for the limited warmth it provides. And I typically need to add
> another layer under it when it gets chilly and THAT's another 10.5
> ounces.
>
> The skaha is about 9.5 ounces for a large size.
>
> Does anyone have any useful info/experience on these types of gear?
>
> I'm not too concerned about the "sweating in down thing". I don't plan
> on hiking in it. (of course, key word here is "plan"...)
>
> Shell durability? Warmth? Maintenance?
>
>
> Michael  Saenz
> Associate Partner
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of gwtmp01 at mac.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:53 AM
> To: Jane
> Cc: PCT List
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Leaving List
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Jane wrote:
> > I am removing myself from the list for the moment.  So much of the
> > current input sinply doesn't reflect what I originally found so
> > helpful and interesting -- tips on gear, water sources, trailhead
> > transportation, etc. as well as personal anecdotes of folks'
> > adventures on the trail.  I'll check it out again in a few months.
>
> Jane, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm singling you out but I
> hope you have expressed your frustrations directly to the people
> posting the comments.
>
> If a few rude or uncalled for comments result in people unsubscribing
> instead of privately (or if necessary publicly) calling out the posters
> then the net result is that the list and discussion becomes
> controlled by
> those who are misbehaving as all the polite people leave the list.
>
> I know it can be awkward and sometimes seem like an unnecessary
> confrontation,
> but when you see that a particular post is clearly out of line just
> send a quick
> note to the author.  It isn't necessary to enter into a point by
> point debate,
> just give them a heads up that you felt uncomfortable with the tone
> of the post.
>
> I hate to see lists degrade because all the good people leave.  It is
> quite easy
> for a few raucous threads to stand out from many more reasonable
> lines of discussion.
>
> It is possible to have a discussion and disagreement with civility.
> The aim
> should be to insist on a certain amount of decorum while still
> encouraging
> discussion.
>
>
> Gary Wright
>
>
>
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