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- Subject: [pct-l] Re: pct-l-digest V1 #802
- From: Jarrid Wong <wongjk@umich.edu>
- Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 03:10:55 -0400 (EDT)
Hello again!
Simple question. Anyone know which is better to fly into for entry
in section H? i have to either fly to LA or San Fran then bus to Section
H. where i wish to start. if anyone has done this before or has ANY
suggestions please let me know.
Thanks again!
Jarrid
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"But i still haven't found what im looking for."
-U2
Jarrid Wong
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wongjk/index.html
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On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, pct-l-digest wrote:
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> pct-l-digest Sunday, July 4 1999 Volume 01 : Number 802
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>
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> In this issue:
>
> RE: [pct-l] AT vs PCT
> [pct-l] Info on Tuolumne Canyon...?
> [pct-l] Mailing Addresses
> [pct-l] Snow in Washington State
> Re: [pct-l] Mailing Addresses
> [pct-l] WALT & PAT ARE BACK HOME!
> [pct-l] BOUNCE pct-l@backcountry.net: Admin request of type /\bsubscribe\b/i at line 7 (fwd)
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> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 11:24:00 +0200
> From: "Eriksen, Svein" <sveri@wmdata.com>
> Subject: RE: [pct-l] AT vs PCT
>
> I hiked the AT in 96, then the PCT in 98. This summer I did the first 650
> miles of the AT again.
>
> One reason for going back to the AT for my vacation this year was the
> friendly people on the AT, and I wasn't disappointed. Nothing wrong with the
> PCT poeple, but I think people on the AT is at least as friendly as on the
> PCT. In general they are more relaxed (probably because having less miles to
> do in a longer seaon).
>
> When it comes to cell-phones I saw a couple of people using them. They
> seemed almost embarrassed about it and tended to take them away from the
> shelters. I'll have to agree with one of the other answers that I can't
> really see how you can use a cell phone to get room in a shelter as they are
> first come first serve.
>
> If you don't like people, then of course the PCT is "better" that the AT,
> but then why hike a trail in the first place?
>
> Svein
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 07:52:32 -0700
> From: "Kurt Herzog" <kpherzog@cdsnet.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Info on Tuolumne Canyon...?
>
> Hi Kevin..
>
> Saw your post about Tuolumne Cyn.. I was at Yosemite June 21 and
> at that time the ranger at the permit station at Tuolumne Meadows
> told me that the crossing was very dangerous. He said that the
> only party he knew of to cross was a mountaineering group who
> used climbing ropes and crampons to cross on a single rickety
> log. Does not sound like a place for children to me, IMHO.
>
> The trip to the falls is still worth while however.. just plan
> on turning around below Waterwheel.
>
> Good luck . . . Kurt
>
> PS: Bears are very bad at Glen Aulin. Bring a bear can.
>
> Kurt P. Herzog = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> 1440 N.E Tenth Street | kpherzog@iname.com | COBOL Lives!
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> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:42:03 -0400
> From: "David B. Stockton" <davstock@tiac.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Mailing Addresses
>
> Does anyone have an updated list of resupply mailing addresses (updated,
> say, from Jardine 2)?
>
> I had all those helpful emails from this past spring but I had a switch
> set wrong and the archive process deleted them all. The on-line PCTA
> archives don't have 1999 in them.
>
> Would REALLY appreciate any help.
>
> - -- Dave Stockton
>
> David B. Stockton
> davstock@tiac.net
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 11:15:12 -0600
> From: "Marge Prothman" <margepr@cyberhighway.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Snow in Washington State
>
> Went to Manning Park June 12th. Still lots of snow on the PCT. climbed up
> Windy Joe Mtn on snowshoes. Went next to Crystal Mtn. about June 20th and
> checked out the trail that goes from White Pass To Snoqualmie Pass. I
> thought maybe my granddaughter and I could get back on the PCT at that
> point and finish to Snoqualmie. No such luck still lots of snow between 5
> and 6000 ft.and the avalanche shoots were still very dangerous.(we would
> have used snowshoes not skis). Crystal Mtn. opened for summer skiing June
> 26th. and yesterday it was snowing at about 5500 ft.
>
> Then at the end of June went to Snoqualmie Pass. Drove the car to the trail
> head parking could not get in there too much snow. Saw the PCT sign at the
> end of the parking area. Went on snowshoes to the trail head. the Toilet
> peaked out of the snow about 1 foot and saw the very tops of the posts
> holding the registers etc. Anyplace there is a forest, it is still holding
> the snow. No way to find the trail unless you have good navigational
> skills. I knew the area and managed to get very close to Red Mountian on
> snowshoes and gained about 1000 ft. elevation. The biggest concern I had was
> snow bridges over creeks etc.
> Have a son involved in Seattle Mtn Rescue. they feel the snow will not
> leave the 6 - 7000 ft level this year unless it is on a open slope and lots
> of sun.
>
> Marge (the Old Gal) doing it by sections.
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:17:01 -0700
> From: "Carolyn M Eddy" <ceddy@netzero.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mailing Addresses
>
> I don't have the addresses but here's a list.
> >1. mt laguna (generic 4 day box)
> >2. warner springs (generic 4 day box)
> >3. kennedy meadows (generic 6 day box, with tent included)
> >4. vermillion valley resort (generic 4 day box)
> >5. burney falls (generic 4 day box)
> >6. crater lake (ups only)(generic 4 day box)
> >7. ollalie lake resort(generic 4 day box)
> >8. timberline lodge (generic 4 day box)
> >9. stehekin(generic 6 day box)
> >
> >(generic 4 day box has food for 4 days, & generic 6 for 6 days)
> >
> >does anyone have the current address & phone for ollaie lake resort, (since
> >the ranger station has been shut down & we aren't supposed to mail
> >packages there)?
> *************************************************************
> Carolyn
> Eagle Creek Packgoats
> Eagle Creek, OR
> "Have goat, will travel"
> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/3796/
> *************************************************************
>
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> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 19:38:03 -0500 (CDT)
> From: radney@ix.netcom.com
> Subject: [pct-l] WALT & PAT ARE BACK HOME!
>
> SENT THIS BUT NEVER RECEIVED IT ON MY LIST SO WILL SEND IT AGAIN.
>
>
> From: radney@ix.netcom.com
> To: pct-l@backcountry.net
> Date: 07/02/99 00:14:47
> Subject: PCT Hiker Information
>
> Walt and I are back in Virgina. Imagine our surprise when we got on the
> discussion site and had over 1,000 msgs -- what happened to our
> "unsubscribe.?" Guess we didn't do it right. But how wonderful to hear Tom
> and others relaying msgs about how everyone is doing -- thank you, we
> appreciate your interest and concern while we are on the trail. All the
> water drops were much needed and for those of you who took part in stashing
> them for us -- thanks from the bottom of our hearts!! Thanks also for all
> the rides, letters, and packages!
>
> For the most part, the "TRAILOGRAM" is pretty accurate, BUT... not always.
> I (Pat) got off the trail in Lone Pine because of an exhisting digestive
> problem (maybe colon polyps) that were causing me abdominal pain, fatigue,
> nausea and bleeding. Walt and I had not done most of this section (the
> Sierras) in '97 and we were hyped up to get it under our belt.
> Unfortunately, I was in no condition to safely take it on when we got there.
> My GI wanted me home and I wanted to continue the hike so badly. At the
> moment I was not in serious trouble but I could be if I continued -- the
> Sierras are really tough and would put more strain on me than what we had
> already done. I knew I couldn't go, but Walt was strong and knew the ropes
> and he could go on and meet the challenge. If I went I could endanger
> anyone else on the trail and possibly have to be rescued or cause someone
> harm trying to help me if I were to became seriously ill. So, I really had
> no choice but to stay in Lone Pine until Wendy (our Trail Daughter from
> '97) could come and get me and take me to Vermillion Valley Resort where I
> could wait for Walt to come in.
>
> Walt did the 120 miles in 8 days and lost 10 pounds -- almost everyone lost
> weight and found an inner strength they didn't know they had. The conditions
> the Hikers faced in the Sierras were tough and every day was spent fighting
> to get up and over snowy passes, enduring postholing, loose scree or gravel
> and lost trails. The sun reflecting on the snow caused most of them to come
> in to VVR with sunburned faces and cracked and burned lips. Down in the
> valley they encountered deep and turbulent stream (river!!) crossings. Most
> couldn't eat enough during the day to get the calories they needed for each
> days ordeal. They arrived at VVR famished and feasted on several breakfasts
> the first hour or so and then they had lunch only to come back several hours
> later for dinner -- or two dinners! I saw many hikers come into VVR quiet
> and reflective and for some it took several days before they seemed to come
> out of it. With good food and a haven to rest in, almost all headed back
> out for Tuloumne. If not eagerly, at least with more inner strength than
> they knew they had before and a resolve to get to Canada -- no matter what!
>
> Contrary to the TRAILOGRAM, Walt also did not take a soaking in Evolution
> Creek -- but he did come close. Walt was hiking with several other hikers
> and the first couple who crossed had a bit of trouble because of the strong
> current. As he got almost across, the current started to drag him and
> Walter (yes, there are two out there) had to give him a had to steady him so
> he could get across -- wet he got from the waist down, but thank God (and
> Walter Harman) he narrowly missed getting dunked. The current was not so
> strong in the meadow and they should have crossed there as we did in '97.
> Walt said the hike thru the Sierras was everything and more than you could
> imagine -- snow, snow and more snow -- and then there was water, water and
> more water!
>
> The following is a list of some of the hikers who left VVR for Tuolomne --
> the date is when they left, not arrived: 6-10 -- Christian Golfette and
> Sandy Egli (Switzerland), 6-14-- Henry Shires, Nathan Martin, Frank
> Tupicchio, 6-15-- Jarrad Caspen, Sven Thesen, "Jersey Jim" Smart, 6-16-- Ken
> Roberts, Pack Rat, Shirt, Lindy, Kevin Rourk, Steve Fonesca, Aaron Alexis,
> Mike Perry, Jan Doelder 6/17 --Big Red and Ramblin Man, Jason & Lara,
> Spice, Mike (Homebrew), Robert Berard (Little Bear), Sophie Hartshorn, Erica
> Kutcher, Charlotte Clews (Meg did the Sierras with her sister), 6-18 --
> Chris Daves, Ron Vaughn, Dana, Karen Davis & John Langhein, Hurricane Helen
> and dog Cleideth. I didn't write down the leave dates for the following --
> sorry. Junk Yard Dog, Donna and Johnathan, Pete and Dennis, Mary Barrow,
> Walter & Korin, Jeff Maxson, Deb, Rebecca, Brian, Derek, Jason & Jason,
> Ishmael, Allen Downs, Rob Bedicheck (he and Anne became engaged on Lake
> Edison--congratulations!), JAIME & BETH, Robin, Nick, Whitney and (?), Neil
> Parcell (from England), Mark, John (Christina went back to Maine with feet
> problems), and the three Norweigens. I know there are several others who I
> have not mentioned -- sorry -- I will try to get a more completed list soon!
>
> Thanks again everyone! Walt and Pat
>
>
>
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> I have been a lurker on this list for quite some time now. I have been
> happy just reading messages but I haven't really considered a PCT hike
> in the past. I have been geared toward the AT.
> When I first "got into hiking" the AT was all the rage and I have been
> planning to do the AT for the past year or so. My departure date would
> have been tax day '00.
> If I haven't mentioned I also su*bscribe to the ATML and lurk there also.
> I have not been too impressed with all of the bickering, infighting, and
> general apathy toward fellow hikers. This fact along with the
> over-commercialization of the AT has prompted me to put the brakes on my
> AT thru hike. I have no desire to spend my journey time there.
> That takes me to the PCT. One of the few trails that I could still find
> an adventure.
> Now my question: What would be the one best book or guide that I could
> use to plan a 2000 hike. I know there will be many different answers,
> but I need help quick! I have geared up for the AT and read it up, but I
> am fairly ignorant concerning the PCT.
> Thanx for putting up with my long post.
> - -Ballcap PCT 00
>
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