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[pct-l] Cactus to Clouds or Why Stop at the Tram?
Ya, thats the guy. Thanks, couldn't think of his name.
>From: Wayne Kraft <wayneskraft@comcast.net>
>To: dsaufley <dsaufley@sprynet.com>
>CC: pctl pctl <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Subject: [pct-l] Cactus to Clouds or Why Stop at the Tram?
>Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:06:50 -0800
>
>Cy Kaicener, 67, says he climbs from Palm Springs to the top of the tram
>and on to the summit of San Jacinto AT LEAST EVERY WEEK. Cy will take
>you up for free any Saturday, unless you'd rather go on Sunday. A while
>back he said he'd made the trip 181 times. How much you wanna bet he's
>over 200 trips by now?
>
>Check out Cy's website: http://www.hiking4health.com/adventures2.htm
>
>On Feb 7, 2006, at 10:42 AM, dsaufley wrote:
>
>>Hey, watch what you're calling "older." It's all relative, my friend!
>>(TIC)
>>
>>L-Rod
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
>>[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Daniel
>>Braunstein
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:07 AM
>>To: msaenz@mve-architects.com; pfreiman@ucsd.edu;
>>pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>>Subject: RE: [pct-l] Getting off the trail between Idyllwild and Cabazon?
>>
>>There is an older guy (60s?) who posts on the San Gorgonio Wilderness
>>Board
>>who says he hikes it every week. I don't recall his name right now, or
>>the
>>addy of his webpage. Sorry.
>>
>>Daniel
>>
>>
>>>From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
>>>To: "Freiman, Paul" <pfreiman@ucsd.edu>,<pct- l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>>>Subject: RE: [pct-l] Getting off the trail between Idyllwild and
>>>Cabazon?
>>>Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 08:52:24 -0800
>>>
>>>Nice views out of Wellman, yes. Round Valley is nice to pass through
>>>too.
>>>
>>>Paul- You know a gal who "frequently" climbs the trail from PS to the
>>>top of the tram???!!! That trail is INSANE. Didn't a SAR volunteer die
>>>on that trail a couple years back? I know some people have climbed that
>>>trail, but I've never heard of anyone who "frequently" climbs that...
>>>The ride up the tram is impressive enough- to think about climbing that
>>>route is, well, unthinkable!
>>>
>>>I've heard somewhere that that trail is the most elevation gain in the
>>>shortest distance of any other trail in the US.
>>>
>>>Michael Saenz , Associate Partner
>>>McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
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>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
>>>[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Freiman,
>>>Paul
>>>Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:14 PM
>>>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>>>Subject: RE: [pct-l] Getting off the trail between Idyllwild and
>>>Cabazon?
>>>
>>>I concur with Oilcan, except I would hike to Wellman Divide, but instead
>>>of taking the PCT tread to the west I would then head east down to the
>>>Tram. This way it is very easy to regain the tread on subsequent
>>>outings. One more thing.... DO NOT tell the workers in the tram station
>>>that you didn't pay to go up or they will make you pay!
>>>Once on the tram strike up a conversation with your fellow passengers
>>>and you shouldn't have any trouble getting a ride to where you want to
>>>go. I know a gal who frequently hikes the 10,000 foot trail from PS to
>>>the top and NEVER has any trouble getting a ride all the way to her car.
>>>Capt Bivy
>>>
>>>
>>>Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:57:34 -0800
>>>From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
>>>Subject: RE: [pct-l] Getting off the trail between Idyllwild and
>>> Cabazon?
>>>To: <djm1313@foo21.com>, <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>>>Message-ID:
>>> <0F2A8339042D50428A400D2CFE9805F85C1B90@exchange500.MVENET.AD>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>>If the goal is to get to PS, then head east from Saddle Junction. Really
>>>nice country between Saddle J and the tramway. You can hike from Saddle
>>>J to the tramway in about 4-6 hours, depending on how fast you walk and
>>>how much time you want to spend in the upper basin.
>>>
>>>As far as I know, there are no viable run-outs from the PCT between
>>>Idyllwild and Cabazon (and I wouldn't want to hitch in Cabazon...).
>>>
>>>Take the Tram down. The Tram ride itself is really cool. I think you'll
>>>need a ride from the bottom tram station into PS. It's a real long
>>>driveway from the 111 to the bottom tram station.
>>>Michael Saenz , Associate Partner
>>>
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