[pct-l] Getting off the trail between Idyllwild and Cabazon? Response to Chance

[chancepctcdt at yahoo.com (Chance Money)]

      Good information. Is there a sign at the trail junction? The crazy network of trails in that area has always encouraged me to ignore all other trail junctions.
Chance  
  "Freiman, Paul" <pfreiman@ucsd.edu> wrote: 
I assume you want the USGS for the PCT and Wellmans Divide and not the 10,000 foot trail (known as the Outlaw trail, also known as the Sunrise trail, the Sunset trail,  the Palms to Pines trail, the Cactus to Clouds trail, and two other misnamed trails) from PS to the tram.
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=11&n=3739496.00008644&e=530010&u=1
If you look at B9 of the guidebook there is a trail that takes off at the junction where the State and Federal boundary is (just east of where B9 is marked).  If you take this trail north another mile you will hit Wellmans Divide.  If you go to the left fork a relatively easy mile more you will put you at the summit.  If you go to the right you drop down to the tram.  If you go to the summit please note that the trail that shows on the topozone does not exist anymore.  I usually just take a bearing of the tram and off-angle so I will hit the trail (that's orienteering talk, if you don't know what it means then stick to the trail).  The tram is nifty for those who haven't taken it.  It drops through 6 climate zones.  It starts at 8500 feet and drops to about 1000-1500.
Capt Bivy

-----Original Message-----
From: Chance Money [mailto:chancepctcdt@yahoo.com]
Sent: Mon 02/06/2006 8:53 PM
To: Freiman, Paul
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Getting off the trail between Idyllwild and Cabazon?

Can you give us specific USGS or Green Trail map references?

Chance

"Freiman, Paul" 
 wrote: I concur with Oilcan, except I would hike to Wellman Divide, but instead of taking the PCT tread to the west I would then head east down to the Tram.  This way it is very easy to regain the tread on subsequent outings.  One more thing.... DO NOT tell the workers in the tram station that you didn't pay to go up or they will make you pay! 
Once on the tram strike up a conversation with your fellow passengers and you shouldn't have any trouble getting a ride to where you want to go.  I know a gal who frequently hikes the 10,000 foot trail from PS to the top and NEVER has any trouble getting a ride all the way to her car.
Capt Bivy

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