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[pct-l] Calling all Women Hikers!
Well, then Richard, perhaps you shouldn't participate in the survey......
;o)
Jerry
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-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Richard Calliger
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:08 AM
To: dsaufley@sprynet.com; pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Calling all Women Hikers!
Thank you for your (very kind) explanation.
However, having done my thru hike and several marathons...they are very
close!
I trained for example, for 12 months for the SF marathon and the Santa Cruz
tri plus a ton of 10k's inbetween (training races really). My dr (Dr Wang)
and my coach concur with me...it is kinda weird - many many studies have
been done they both have heard of...and my female marathon training partner,
Kitty, agrees... we actually trained **MORE** for the marathon than hiking!
'simply 'cause we are after sub 2:50 marathon!!! andnot sub-anything on the
trail!!! :-)
Your courtesy is respected and appreciated. Factually, however I disagree as
the real studies show different than your opinion. I therefore hold my
position and remain a skeptic. The nicest people have been proven over and
over again to have ulterior motives.. AND YOU NEVER know until Dr #$#@
murdered his wife and 2 patients...and another Dr took advantage of an
anesthized (sp??_) patient...etc etc..there is reason for concern, albeit it
may be minor with your wonderful character reference!! I know one or two MDs
ruin if for all..but hey..that is life-- on the trail and at home...
But we should take this offline as it is getting far afield and not really
germaine to completing a thru-hike. My female friends just deal with it as
it occurs and they say no biggie-- women are all over the map...
just as men are in their changes of food/bodily/other functions change under
long distance/thru hiking conditions.
HYOH and my most sincerest regards for your answer!
Richard
Richard
dsaufley@sprynet.com wrote:
Richard,
I can understand and respect your skepticism, but I would like to vouch for
Dr. Michele Toms as being very legitimate, and not some nut job soliciting
personal information.
Thru-hiking is NOT like marathons or any other sports activity that have
relatively shorter windows of training and event. We're talking about doing
a marathon every day, carrying 25-35+ lbs., every day for months. While
there are some corollaries , there are also differences. How many
marathoners do you know who sleep on the ground and eat trail food at the
end of every day? Very few other sports go on for five or six months, and
I'll wager that no one has studied the effects of thru-hiking (specifically)
and it's effects on women.
As a woman, I'd like to know what Michele learns, so I heartily endorse
Micheles quest for information and encourage female long-distance hikers to
participate. Michele is the real deal.
Donna Saufley
aka L-Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: calliger@infolane.com
Sent: Oct 30, 2005 8:43 AM
To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Calling all Women Hikers!
hmmmmmmmmm...if I were a woman I would take this with an HUGE grain of
salt...not to be pesonal..just a healthy educated (PhD type) skepticism...
If all the ladys that even think of answering this type of survey would do a
little research....just use google-- really easy and fast you would see this
is a well-worn research topic in the field..starting way back in the 50's
when women athletics were in the germination stage so-to-speak for the
"modern" era. this includes the first woman's marathon and olymic games
entry, women in the western states 100 foot race,...etc etc etc...
Be very skeptical..sounds pruirent? (sp) prurient?? (fishy!)
(sp?) to me!!
Richard
PS-
HYOH and again, nothing personal..just be cautious..
Caveat emptor on giving away pesonal information to an unknow internet
person..MD or not...this stuff is none of his business especially with so
much data already out there about the topic...has he sent the same thing to
my runner's list? NO! To my mountain climbing lists?? NO! Has he published
this before?
NO..not to my knowledge...has he done other studies?
Nope..not that I can find...
NOR DOES IT MATTER...sounds like physhing to me!
PPS-
All typoes and mispellings are the respobsibility of the author (me!) 'casue
my spell checker is acting up!
Ok..I am off my soapbox...and nothing again personal to the sender of that
note. It is just that there is soooo much weirdness on net as you know!
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:41:27 +0100 (BST), Michele Toms wrote
> Calling women thru-hikers! For squeamish men, read no further :-)
>
> As a doctor and a thru-hiker, I have been interested in the health of
> hikers while on the trail.
> Anecdotally, it seemed that some women stopped having their periods,
> probably due to weight loss and excessive exercise. There is a
> recognised condition called Female Athlete Syndrome that comprises a
> triad of amenorrhea (lack of menstrual period), disordered eating and
> osteoporosis. I wouldn't exactly consider that hikers have eating
> disorders in the conventional sense, but they can have a rather
> irregular diet.
> Osteoporosis is a real threat to the thru-hiker, as it can predispose
> to stress fractures.
>
> I'm interested in collecting data in the form of a questionnaire from
> any female hiker who has hiked all or sections of the PCT, in any
> year. The more data I can collect the better. I am just as interested
> in replies from women who had no problems as well as those who did, so
> as not to bias the data. The information will be kept confidential and
> anonymous. I intend to write up a report which will be discussed with
> fellow doctors, and will make it available to hikers on request. It
> may help future women hikers intending on embarking on a long hike.
>
> Please respond directly to me off-list if you would like to help with
> this study; it will involve approximately 10 minutes of your time
> filling in a questionnaire.
>
> Dr Michele Toms (half of Dave-and-Michele) PCT '05
>
>
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