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[pct-l] October trip



Hi Jeff and Donna
     We should be starting our hike on September 30th. Starting at the I-15
and as long as my body doesn't fall apart, we should be in Aqua Dulce the
7th or 8th of October, as long as we don't get lost. We will be carrying 8
or 9 days of stuff with us and would like to send a re-supply box to your
place if that's OK? The box shouldn't be to big, it will have enough stuff
for the final 8 days. My wife will be picking us up at the 58 in Tehachapi
on the 16th.  Thanks so much, looking forward to meeting you too.  Ground
Pounder Bill  and  Eagle Scout Bryan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dsaufley@sprynet.com>
To: "Bill & Cathy" <tahoe.cat@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Back injury exercises?


> Looking forward to meeting you in October!
>
> L-Rod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill & Cathy <tahoe.cat@verizon.net>
> Sent: Aug 3, 2005 12:15 PM
> To: Mike Saenz <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
> Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Back injury exercises?
>
> Hi Mike  and All on the list.  Mike, if you don't know about my back pain,
> where have you been for the last few years? July 1989 Laminectamy L-4-5
S-1.
> January 1990 Fusion L-4-5  S-1!! Every thing I have ever done  brought it
> on. It all started with the USMC then 13years with Procter and Gamble in
> their warehouse, then 10 years with water Departments and the Barns I have
> built and all the work for the eight different homes we have owned over
the
> years, Oh yes and Horse back riding, not good. I was out of commission for
> one and a half years. Yes you do cry like a baby and nothing can be done
> about it until the "Percadan" kicks in, 1 every two hours for a week
before
> I could get into the hospital. I was in the hospital for a week for each
of
> the surgeries. I thought I would never get out of bed again. Yes you do
need
> to keep the stomach down and flat and I still am trying to do that with no
> success yet. I eat to much. I never thought I would be able to carry a
55lb
> pack,(what's ultralite?) I carry muscle relaxers and pain killers while
> hiking. There has been times when I thought I was going to have to call
for
> a chopper to get me out  but I slept the night with the "Drugs" and woke
up
> to continue hiking. This coming October I will go from the I-15 to
Tehachapi
> Pass, the longest stretch since the Marine Corps. Its worth every bit of
> pain. There are exercises that I am suppose to do but I sure get LAZY but
> with every one talking about it maybe this is what I have needed to get
the
> 50lbs off my body so it will be easier to carry the 55lb pack. How do you
> lighten the load? But Remember
> "Be Prepared"  Ground Pounder Bill  "Semper Fi"            and happy
hiking
>
> PS  I can show you my scars at next years Kick Off      LOL
>        and sorry this was so long
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
> To: "Stephanie" <taurodea@gmail.com>; <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:55 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] Back injury exercises?
>
>
> I also managed to "throw out my back" last week. First time this has
> ever happened to me... I now have an increased level of sympathy for
> those who live with chronic back pain. The pain was excruciating. It
> took me to my knees several times. And I have to drive a manual
> transmission through a winding mountain road (Hwy 74, "The Ortega
> Highway", into Orange County) every day.
> Friday I was in Urgent Care to find out if I was permanently damaged.
> Doc said: "Just threw your back out. Got back spasms. Could've been
> anything. No way to really avoid it in the future..." and, "Here's a
> prescription for Flexeril, 800mg Ibuprophen and 1200mg of Vicodin..."
> Quite a cocktail. Spent last weekend flat on my back drifting in and out
> of consciousness. (Damn good thing I didn't hike the Divide, Erik!)
>
> It's still sore, but I can now rise from a sitting position without
> yelping out in pain. I can shift gears now without making really scary
> faces.
>
> A lot of people I've talked to say that conditioning your "core" is the
> best way to protect your back from slipping out of alignment. Those
> "bicycle" exercises that Strider mentioned sound like a good way to do
> this. Others mentioned those big exercise balls (stretches as well as
> conditions, or so they say).
>
> Getting old sucks. And the pain I experienced last Friday makes the old
> saying that "it beats the alternative" debatable.
>
> For what it's worth,
>
>
> Michael Saenz, Associate Partner
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Stephanie
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:57 AM
> To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
> Subject: [BULK] - [pct-l] Back injury exercises?
>
> As luck would have it, I've sprained my back a month and a half away
> from local hiking season. Seems the extreme physical exertion of walking
> into my office yesterday morning was far too much for even a seasoned
> cubicle warrior such as myself. One false move had me down for the
> count.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone can suggest, once I recover well enough to walk
> and stand (much less sit up without crying like a little girl), simple
> exercises I can do to stretch and strengthen my stomach and back.
>
> My doctor has suggested a few small exercises, but I wanted to hear from
> my backpacker community to see if there was any special insight given
> the things we demand of our backs. I had hoped to go out and take my
> very first solo backpacking trips this season, training for my
> '07 thru. Now, I hope simply for a few scaled-down day-hikes hopefully
> by Halloween...
>
> This makes me wonder how a back injury is handled out on the trail.
>
> Any suggestions would be most wonderful. Thanks!!
>
> Steph
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