[BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Thoughts on the ADZPCTKO thread

[msaenz at mve-architects.com (Mike Saenz)]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but,

I don't think changing anything about ADZ will remedy the problems Donna
is trying to address.

I wrote to some earlier that there's a special quality of ADZ being the
first night's destination on a thru-hike. That alone makes the location
and dates of ADZ significant. It would seem that this would outweigh any
perceived disadvantage of ADZ's concentration of thru-hiker effect.

Does anyone have an accurate count of thru-hikers starting out north
from ADZ this year? Hiking out of Morena Res, that is.

By simply raising the awareness of the impacts a large wave of
thru-hikers have on the resources that have been organized and
developed FOR them, wouldn't any particular year's crop of thru-hikers
plan accordingly? I mean, we all pull together to get hikers to and from
ADZ. Can't we expand the effort to help those who stagger their start
dates to attend and get them back on the trail? I can't imagine that the
distances involved are an issue. Even the very earliest start dates
couldn't get to far north to prohibit a shuttle back down to ADZ, right?

Just a thought.


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Brian
McLaughlin
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:49 PM
To: PCT-L@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] Thoughts on the ADZPCTKO thread

----- Original Message ----- 
> Yawn

Well, as near as I can make out, Donna is worried that the ADZPCTKO is
causing problems by bunching up thru-hikers in greater concentrations
than they otherwise would be. She'd like to see these problems discussed
and, if possible, solved.

As near as I can make out, Greg is saying that, problems or not, the
people who plan and execute the ADZPCTKO have an inherent right to plan
it and execute it as they see best. He seems to believe that this PCT-L
discussion is a futile exercise.

As near as I can make out, Donna's intentions are absolutely pure and
Greg is absolutley correct. The correct forum for Donna to air her
concerns would be to take them to the ADZPCTKO planners, since they are
the only ones empowered to consider her concerns or to act on them. 

If the planners had decided to get input from PCT-L, then this process
would have some meaning. It still might have meaning, but only when it
becomes a coherent argument for specific actions and is brought before
the correct people - the ADZPCTKO planners, who may or may not choose to
adopt them.

Of course, it's perfectly OK to vent our opinions. So long as we don't
deceive ourselves about this being just a gabfest, in the absence of
participation and interest by the people who matter.

Just my $0.02

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