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[pct-l] Fuler Ridge Report (long)
- Subject: [pct-l] Fuler Ridge Report (long)
- From: Slyatpct at aol.com (Slyatpct@aol.com)
- Date: Sat Apr 16 18:26:23 2005
I'm more impressed with the description then the conditions. Excellent.
Thanks,
Sly
In a message dated 4/16/2005 2:58:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
maurer@earthlink.net writes:
> On April 15th I hiked out of Idyllwild to determine trail conditions
> between Strawberry Jct and Fuller Ridge along the PCT. Photos of this
> trip an be found at http://community.webshots.com/album/323389676zJqcYy
>
>
> Here are my findings:
>
> 1. I hiked up out of Idyllwild along the Deer Springs trail from 6600'
> to the junction with the PCt at Strawberry junction at 8000'. During
> this climb I found no snow whatsoever to 7700', and then only small
> patches of snow to 8000'. I was on a S/SE facing slope during this
> portion of the hike. One could assume that similar slopes/elevation
> north of hwy 74 and south of this point would have similar conditions.
> 2. At Strawberry jct I found the trail intersection sign and 2 PCT posts
> easily. The area was under patchy snow (see photos) but was fairly easy
> to navigate. The next leg of the PCT travels 2.3 miles north to the
> intersection with the Marion Mountain trail. On this section I began to
> lose the PCT with some regularity. I would guess that between 8000' and
> 8700' the trail was over 50% fully covered in snow. At 8690' I saw the
> trail for the last time. I could see that next to large rocks and trees,
> the trail was cover by 2-4' of snow at that point. I began to hike
> largely cross country using map/compass and GPS to try and find the
> trail, but to no avail.
> 3. I continued hiking along my GPS points toward Fuller Ridge. As I
> trended eastward toward the Deer Springs stream and the Fuller Ridge jct
> the navigation was not tremendously difficult, but there was absolutely
> no trail to follow since I was now on a north face. As I approached the
> Deer Spring stream I could hear it but could not see it - it was buried.
> I followed the drainage up hill and eventually found a water source. The
> source I found was very near where the PCT crosses the stream according
> to my GPS. At this point the snow depth next to the stream was
> approximately 8' (see photos).
> 4. I continued along a route northward toward Fuller Ridge in an attempt
> to find the trail intersection. After several attempt to locate it
> (using GPS) I realized the trail signs were under my feet - completely
> buried in snow. Because of traveling cross country in deep snow my speed
> had slowed to about 1 MPH. I was running out of day and needed to be
> back at my house early Saturday AM so I chose to hike to the edge of
> Fuller Ridge, then return to Strawberry Jct. I would have needed 4-5
> hours to get to Black Mountain CG at this speed, and would not have been
> able to get back to my car by the time I needed to. I also figured that,
> having traveled above Fuller Ridge elevation-wise on both south and
> north facing slopes I could give some indication of conditions along the
> Ridge.
> 5. On the return trip I noted that there were 6 water sources between
> the Fuller Ridge intersection and Strawberry Jct. The 2 higher elevation
> crossings were buried beneath the snow.
> 6. While at 8900' on the descent I came upon a Scandinavian couple who
> had followed my tracks north from Strawberry jct and were preparing to
> navigating Fuller Ridge using map and compass. I gave them map map
> showing the trail along Fuller Ridge in extreme close up. Since we could
> easily see the ridge from this point I'm sure they could find their way
> along it to Castle Rocks, traverse the slot and head down toward Black
> Mountain. So for the record, at least one groups has gone through this
> section thus far.
>
> Extrapolations
>
> 1 The conditions will obviously be more snow free approximately 3 weeks
> from now, when the Kick Off group comes through. The Scandinavian couple
> mentioned they had some snow on the section between Saddle jct and
> Strawberry jct, but they made it OK. I would guess that by the time the
> group comes through, this section will be snow free since it faces south.
> 2. I'd guess too that the trail will be visible to at least 8500', maybe
> more by the time the group comes through. The challenge in my opinion,
> will be the north slope between the Marion mtn trail intersection and
> Fuller ridge. I'd guess there will still be snow here, maybe deep snow.
> However, good map skills and some basic equipment should get the pack
> through this section. If they can trend north then east after the Marion
> Mtn intersection, continuing to gain elevation, they should find
> themselves crossing the Deer Spring drainage with some ease
> (navigationally), and will SEE Fuller Ridge on their left the entire
> time. From the Deer Springs stream they can continue north out onto the
> ridge and visually follow the ridge toward Castle rocks. There will
> likely still be some snow here but 3 weeks from now it should be
> manageable if traversed after mid morning..
> 3. The tough part in my opinion will be the 2 or so miles from Castle
> Rocks to Black Mountain. This section is forested, on the north side of
> the ridge and will therefore hold snow the longest. However, the Black
> mountain campground is at about 7500' and should be warming up/melting
> well by then.
>
> Equipment
>
> I carried a GPS, ice ax, crampons and snowshoes. I only used the GPS.
> Since I came up a south slope the snow I eventually encountered was soft
> , and by the time I rounded to the north facing slopes the warmth of the
> day had softened the snow to where I could get good traction but not
> posthole. On my descent I pot holed often in the snow on the south slopes.
>
> If I were a thru hiker I'd want to have crampons and an ice ax with me
> through this section. I might consider as a bare minimum hiking poles
> and some sort of "stableicers". This area will experience freeze/thaw
> every day, so the snow will be rock hard in the morning. The first 2.5
> miles of Fuller Ridge have some tricky parts, with exposure. Going
> through there early in the morning will be tricky. I think what I'd do
> is cover the 12 miles between Saddle jct and Black Mountain in one day.
> For those who resupply in Idyllwild using Saddle jct (versus the hwy 74
> hitchhike), you can start out on largely south facing slopes in the AM,
> reaching the north facing section just before the Fuller Ridge
> intersection by around lunch. continuing along, you will cross over
> Castle rocks by mid afternoon and will have softer snow on the north
> face of the ridge in the Afternoon to traverse down to Black Mountain
> cg. There may be a bit of postholing along here but at least you'd have
> traversed the south face of Fuller Ridge (the first 2.5 miles) after it
> has had a chance to soften up.
>
> As a final thought, I was hoping to provide a cut trail, or even some
> footprints that could be followed by the thru-hiker pack leaving from
> the kick off. Unfortunately the snow was so deep that my tracks would be
> gone within a day or two. I wish I could have helped out more in this
> regard but conditions would not allow it.
>
> I hope this helps. Greg, let me know if you want me to cover this at the
> Kick off - I'll try to blow up some photo's and maps.
>
>
> Mike Maurer
> Gossamer Gear