[pct-l] Gear Skins and condensation

[blisterfree at isp01.net (Brett)]

>
> 7) Every tent will have moisture problems if there isn't 
> enough breeze. Double wall tents will normally never drip 
> into the living space; single wall tents could depending 
> on the design. If the tent is wet when taken down, 
> everything will probably get wet.

Has anyone used the Moonbow "powerpac" system, wherein one 
rolls up the sleeping bag and pad inside the tent or tarp - 
rather than stuff-sacking everything seperately - then 
sticks the whole mass of it loosely into a "gear skin," 
(compression panel with suspension) such that the exterior 
of the tent/tarp serves as the pack body?

www.moonbowgear.com

I'm picturing the camping experience on the second night of 
continuous rain.

I don't like this picture.

- bf


From: "Marshall Karon" <m.karon@comcast.net>
To: "Brett" <blisterfree@isp01.net>; 
<metam01@earthlink.net>; "pct-l" 
<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lunar Solo tent - condensation


> Thanks for the explanation.
>
> I used the Europa II this summer in Colorado. My wife used 
> the Tarptent in the Sierras. We both had some condensation 
> at times. Some things we learned:
>
> 1) No tent is perfect under all conditions. You will get 
> condensation some time. Having sleeping bags with a water 
> resistant shell is a good idea.
>
> 2) Don't camp in a meadow or next to a stream unless you 
> are high and have lots of wind. Otherwise, you will be 
> sure to have lots of condensation.
>
> 3) Don't stay in a frozen tent waiting for the sun to 
> defrost it. It will and the huge amount of moisture will 
> drip onto you.
>
> 4) When a large amount of moisture does start to roll down 
> the top and hits the mesh in the Europa II, it does drip 
> straight down onto whatever is below - and that was me.
>
> 5) Don't pitch your tent in a lake (or a place that will 
> become a lake). Water can force its way in from the 
> bottom.
>
> 6) Keep the tent open as much as possible - that normally 
> means don't use a vestibule closed up.
>
> 7) Every tent will have moisture problems if there isn't 
> enough breeze. Double wall tents will normally never drip 
> into the living space; single wall tents could depending 
> on the design. If the tent is wet when taken down, 
> everything will probably get wet.
>
> 8) Silnylon tents dry amazingly fast. In 10 minutes my 
> tent was normally dry.
>
> I never needed to use the tent in day after day of wet 
> weather. I always had time to dry the tent daily. I would 
> be hesitant to use a single wall tent if I knew I would 
> have many back to back days of rain. But, I'm a wimp - I 
> would probably bail in those conditions.
>
> Marshall Karon
> Portland, OR
> m.karon@comcast.net
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brett" <blisterfree@isp01.net>
> To: <metam01@earthlink.net>; "pct-l" 
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> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Lunar Solo tent
>
>
>> Actually, my choice of words wasn't the best. Guttering 
>> could also imply an evacuation of water from the tent's 
>> interior, but my concern was that the mesh intersecting 
>> with the canopy could create a drip-line as moisture 
>> rolls down the interior of the canopy, causing that water 
>> to land on the tent's floor. Ron says it shouldn't be a 
>> real concern, given the tent's overall shape and the 
>> orientation of the sleep area.
>>
>> - blisterfree
>>
>>>
>>> Now I can learn something.  What is a guttering effect?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Warner Springs Monty
>>>
>>
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