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[pct-l] lightweight water purification on the PCT
- Subject: [pct-l] lightweight water purification on the PCT
- From: leo-spencer at comcast.net (leo-spencer@comcast.net)
- Date: Wed Nov 24 14:05:53 2004
Hi Bob,
Pristine is a product of the Advance Chemicals Ltd. based in southwestern British Columbia. Toll free 877-533-3901
Leo.
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Sorry for the follow-up. Exactly where in Canada is the company whose website you listed? I could not tell from the site.
BTW, Pristine is the same as Aqua Mira and I have found LDP Camping Foods in Louisiana to be as inexpensive as anywhere. They have a website or try Marcus at 1-800-826-5767
Bob
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From: leo-spencer@comcast.net [mailto:leo-spencer@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:30 PM
To: Robert Ellinwood
Cc: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
Subject: RE: [pct-l] lightweight water purification on the PCT
Hi Bob,
I have never found Pristine available in the USA, but it is widely used in Canada and is a Canadian product. I believe that it can be purchased in 2oz and 4oz quantities. I plan to have a supply of Pristine in my bounce box from which to refill my 1oz containers. The 2oz product costs 14.95 US and the 4oz is 22.95. The 2oz size treats 30 gallons of water. Not cheap, but to me it is worth the cost.
Leo.
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> Leo,
>
> I also have used Pristine for years and will use it on the PCT this summer.
> Where is this company you cited (windupradio) located? I'm looking for the
> least expensive, but quickest response, company to call from the trail and
> have Aqua Mira sent ahead to a P.O. for me periodically as needed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dr. Bob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-
> > bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of leo-spencer@comcast.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:38 AM
> > To: Jeffrey Zimmerman; PCT-L
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] lightwight water purification on the PCT
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have used Chlorine Dioxide (Pristine) through out the high Sierras since
> 2001 and so far
> > have not had any health problems related to water purification. I will be
> hiking 800 miles of
> > the PCT this coming season and will continue to use the two part Pristine
> water treatment.
> > Information on Pristine can be found at:
> >
> > http://www.windupradio.com/Pristine/
> >
> > Leo.
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:49:02 -0800, Jeff Moorehead
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would be interested in hearing about solutions to water purification
> > > > that don't involve boiling ...
> > > > 1) Lightest method-- don't worry about it ...
> > > > 2) Next lightest-- tablets or chlorine dioxide solutions. ...
> > > > 3) Water filter bottles ...
> > > > 4) MSR MIOX. ...
> > > > 5) And then the long list of water filters ...
> > >
> > > The very first place to start is by reading about the need for
> > > purification:
> > > there is such a need but it's a lot less than most people suppose.
> > >
> > > The next of course is to realize that anecdotal evidence is not
> scientific
> > > evidence, and is good only for campfire lies.
> > >
> > > Essentially the Yosemite Association papers says all water is
> contaminated,
> > > but that certain threshholds of contamination are necessary before
> > > infection
> > > results. It goes on to say that much of the Sierra water supply contam-
> > > ination is below measured levels in domestic tap water.
> > >
> > > But that's for only for some of the more famous bugs. There's always
> > > e. coli to mess things up. However, even here the article suggests that
> > > simple domestic hygiene (washing one's hands, particularly after
> > > elimination)
> > > is the best preventative.
> > >
> > > I've met people who treated everything with Polar Pure iodine solution.
> > > > http://www.polarequipment.com/ > Simple, largely effective, gives the
> old
> > > thryoid a quick thrill. Bounces right off one of the protozoans
> > > (Cryptosporidium parvum, fortunately rare, as I hear).
> > > There's always the ascorbic acid after-treatment which apparently
> > > precipitates
> > > out the remaining free iodine. All drinks are lemonade.
> > >
> > > Most people I've met filtered most of the time but used squeeze bottles
> > > some
> > > of the time. Filtering clean water into a dirty bottle poses a logical
> > > problem,
> > > at least in my mind. My observations of the Katadyn Pocket Filter match
> > > yours,
> > > reliable, effective, durable, and weighty. Doesn't purify the container.
> > >
> > > Me, I've used the Aqua Mira dual solution when I had doubts about the
> > > water,
> > > about a third of the time. BTW the Miox chemistry is also chlorine
> > > dioxide,
> > > just delivered in a different manner -- or at least so I hear. The cost
> > > of the
> > > Miox unit itself buys a lot of Aqua Mira. I find that Aqua Mira is
> > > difficult to buy in California (out of state sources deliver it readily,
> > > though),
> > > apparently due to unfinished acceptance by state health authorities.
> > > You'll
> > > notice how particularly modest and vague vague are the performance
> claims
> > > on
> > > the manufacturer's web site: > http://www.mcnett.com/page.cfm?pageID=947
> >
> > >
> > > "Ya pays yer money and takes yer chances!"
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey Neil Zimmerman
> > > Sonoma County, The Left Coast
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> From whitethunder10 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 24 14:00:20 2004
From: whitethunder10 at hotmail.com (Joseph Niemiec)
Date: Wed Nov 24 14:12:01 2004
Subject: [pct-l] water purification - the answer
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Hello yall,
I got Giardia this year and somewhere in the sierra. Like most others I
ditched the water filter early on. I switched to Aqua mira after that but
usually just drank freely from streams. I would recommend just bringing a
bottle full of Flagil along (I'm sure your doc would give it to you).
BEcause, like most of us that hiked this year, you'll probably end up drink
freely out of high mt runoff and will ditch whatever water filter you had.
and then there are the times when you just don;t feel like getting you AM
ready.
So if you do get it Giardia you can just kill it with Flagil right away...
Mouse
>From: "Mike Saenz" <msaenz@mve-architects.com>
>To: "Jeff Moorehead"
<jeffmoorehead1@cox.net>,<pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
>Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] lightwight water purification on the
PCT
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:47:06 -0800
>
>There was an excellent article on backwater bugs in the December `03
>issue of backpacker mag.
>Essentially, the dose of bugs that an average human would have to ingest
>to get sick is way more than the amounts found in MOST tested waters.
>The downside: if you did get infected, the results can get ugly...
>
>I used to drink straight out of streams even in the San Gabriels when I
>was a kid.
>But now I filter, if for nothing else, for the peace of mind that I get
>when I guzzle when I get to water sources.
>
>If you can get your hands on the BP Mag article, I'd recommend reading
>it. It even included electron microscope photos of the bugs that lurk in
>the waters...
>
>For what it's worth, I'd imagine that you'd get dosed with far more bugs
>wiping out in a wave along the So Cal coast...
>
>*glurg*
>
>
>M i c h a e l S a e n z
>McLarand Vasquez Emsiek & Partners, Inc.
>A r c h i t e c t u r e P l a n n i n g I n t e r i o r s
>w w w . m v e - a r c h i t e c t s . c o m
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net
>[mailto:pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Moorehead
>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 10:53 AM
>To: pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net
>Subject: [BULK] - Re: [pct-l] lightwight water purification on the PCT
>
>Good story... most insect larvae, including those in your description,
>would certainly not fall under be under the category of 'microscopic
>fauna'
>and could be filtered out 'cowboy coffee style'. But then... no protein
>:)
>
> >I notice little black spots and small twigs in the water.
> > Slowly the little black spots as the water got warmer began to
move
> >and sprout wings and legs. Then to my surprise the twigs began to
> >sprout wings and legs also. The heating of the water caused
premature
>
> >development of the black spots to water bugs the twigs to dragon
> >flies.
>
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