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[pct-l] lightweight water purification on the PCT
- Subject: [pct-l] lightweight water purification on the PCT
- From: leo-spencer at comcast.net (leo-spencer@comcast.net)
- Date: Wed Nov 24 12:40:53 2004
Hi Bob,
I have never found Pristine available in the USA, but it is widely used in Canada and is a Canadian product. I believe that it can be purchased in 2oz and 4oz quantities. I plan to have a supply of Pristine in my bounce box from which to refill my 1oz containers. The 2oz product costs 14.95 US and the 4oz is 22.95. The 2oz size treats 30 gallons of water. Not cheap, but to me it is worth the cost.
Leo.
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> Leo,
>
> I also have used Pristine for years and will use it on the PCT this summer.
> Where is this company you cited (windupradio) located? I'm looking for the
> least expensive, but quickest response, company to call from the trail and
> have Aqua Mira sent ahead to a P.O. for me periodically as needed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dr. Bob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pct-l-bounces@mailman.backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-
> > bounces@mailman.backcountry.net] On Behalf Of leo-spencer@comcast.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:38 AM
> > To: Jeffrey Zimmerman; PCT-L
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] lightwight water purification on the PCT
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have used Chlorine Dioxide (Pristine) through out the high Sierras since
> 2001 and so far
> > have not had any health problems related to water purification. I will be
> hiking 800 miles of
> > the PCT this coming season and will continue to use the two part Pristine
> water treatment.
> > Information on Pristine can be found at:
> >
> > http://www.windupradio.com/Pristine/
> >
> > Leo.
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:49:02 -0800, Jeff Moorehead
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would be interested in hearing about solutions to water purification
> > > > that don't involve boiling ...
> > > > 1) Lightest method-- don't worry about it ...
> > > > 2) Next lightest-- tablets or chlorine dioxide solutions. ...
> > > > 3) Water filter bottles ...
> > > > 4) MSR MIOX. ...
> > > > 5) And then the long list of water filters ...
> > >
> > > The very first place to start is by reading about the need for
> > > purification:
> > > there is such a need but it's a lot less than most people suppose.
> > >
> > > The next of course is to realize that anecdotal evidence is not
> scientific
> > > evidence, and is good only for campfire lies.
> > >
> > > Essentially the Yosemite Association papers says all water is
> contaminated,
> > > but that certain threshholds of contamination are necessary before
> > > infection
> > > results. It goes on to say that much of the Sierra water supply contam-
> > > ination is below measured levels in domestic tap water.
> > >
> > > But that's for only for some of the more famous bugs. There's always
> > > e. coli to mess things up. However, even here the article suggests that
> > > simple domestic hygiene (washing one's hands, particularly after
> > > elimination)
> > > is the best preventative.
> > >
> > > I've met people who treated everything with Polar Pure iodine solution.
> > > > http://www.polarequipment.com/ > Simple, largely effective, gives the
> old
> > > thryoid a quick thrill. Bounces right off one of the protozoans
> > > (Cryptosporidium parvum, fortunately rare, as I hear).
> > > There's always the ascorbic acid after-treatment which apparently
> > > precipitates
> > > out the remaining free iodine. All drinks are lemonade.
> > >
> > > Most people I've met filtered most of the time but used squeeze bottles
> > > some
> > > of the time. Filtering clean water into a dirty bottle poses a logical
> > > problem,
> > > at least in my mind. My observations of the Katadyn Pocket Filter match
> > > yours,
> > > reliable, effective, durable, and weighty. Doesn't purify the container.
> > >
> > > Me, I've used the Aqua Mira dual solution when I had doubts about the
> > > water,
> > > about a third of the time. BTW the Miox chemistry is also chlorine
> > > dioxide,
> > > just delivered in a different manner -- or at least so I hear. The cost
> > > of the
> > > Miox unit itself buys a lot of Aqua Mira. I find that Aqua Mira is
> > > difficult to buy in California (out of state sources deliver it readily,
> > > though),
> > > apparently due to unfinished acceptance by state health authorities.
> > > You'll
> > > notice how particularly modest and vague vague are the performance
> claims
> > > on
> > > the manufacturer's web site: > http://www.mcnett.com/page.cfm?pageID=947
> >
> > >
> > > "Ya pays yer money and takes yer chances!"
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey Neil Zimmerman
> > > Sonoma County, The Left Coast
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> From m.karon at comcast.net Wed Nov 24 12:51:46 2004
From: m.karon at comcast.net (Marshall Karon)
Date: Wed Nov 24 13:02:25 2004
Subject: [pct-l] lightwight water purification on the PCT
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Reminds me of my attempt to purify Oregon lake water with iodine tablets. I
put the tablets in and waited 30 minutes. Only problem was that I also put
in Vitamin C to get rid of the taste - at the same time I added the iodine,
not realizing that I neutralized the iodine and rendered it worthless. But
...... I never got sick. Now I skip the iodine.
However, I do normally use a filter when I think the water is suspect (low
elevations, people, cows, ponds, etc.). Don't like waiting 30 minutes to
drink. However, filters don't always work, so carrying a little bottle of
bleach seems like a good idea.
Marshall Karon
Portland, OR
m.karon@comcast.net
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From: <Lonetrail@aol.com>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] lightwight water purification on the PCT
> While backpacking in Oregon last year I camped at six horse springs camp
> site. I walked down to the springs to find yukkie water. I filled up my
> containers and decided to boil the water that night. I had no TV to watch
> so I watch
> the water boil. I notice little black spots and small twigs in the water.
> Slowly the little black spots as the water got warmer began to move and
> sprout
> wings and legs. Then to my surprise the twigs began to sprout wings and
> legs
> also. The heating of the water caused premature development of the black
> spots
> to water bugs the twigs to dragon flies.
>
> Later on that night a thru hiker arrived and went down to get water. When
> he
> came back up with his water I explained to him about the bugs in the
> water.
> He smiled and drank out of his
> bottle bugs and all. Protein he explained. later on he pulled a tick from
> his leg and ate that too. I said proteins and smiled.
>
> So to make a long story short some don't use any water purification.
> Different strokes for different folks.
>
> Lonetrail
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> I would be interested in hearing about solutions to water purification
>> that don't involve boiling ...
>> 1) Lightest method-- don't worry about it ...
>
>
>
>> 2) Next lightest-- tablets or chlorine dioxide solutions. ...
>> 3) Water filter bottles ...
>> 4) MSR MIOX. ...
>> 5) And then the long list of water filters ...
>
> The very first place to start is by reading about the need for
>
>
>
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