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[pct-l] I-10- to Big Bear in November?
- Subject: [pct-l] I-10- to Big Bear in November?
- From: Lonetrail at aol.com (Lonetrail@aol.com)
- Date: Sun Nov 7 15:43:41 2004
Hi
I did it solo Sobo from Big Bear to I-10 several years ago a week after New
Years. Its very dramatic going from High Mountain to High Desert to Low
Desert, from 2 + feet of snow to desert. We had three prior snow falls and melts
which made ice under each snows fall. The North face of the mountain can be a
challenge since the tail accumulate the ice and snow with a pregnant look
leaving only several inches of ground on the down side for traction. The
mountain was wind slept blowing even more snow on the notched trail. A fall can be
fatal. I used crampons but had to take them off and on quite often. I found
my leki were life saving. I did not have an ice ax but would have felt better
with one.
I followed someone who was on snow shoes who must have been two days ahead
of me I could see he was having problems with the snow/ice and he jumped of the
trail or went cross country.
The most exciting part of the hike is the wind at night in the high
mountain. The N/E face of the Mt. receives less sun and therefore you have more snow
and colder temperatures compared to the S/W slop. At night the cold air
scooped down under the rising warm air of the S/W slop, the result the wind
starts whirling and howling around the mountain about every eight minutes sounding
like a freight train blowing trees down. I had to find shelter along a rock
cropping eating a cold meal. Plan on one cold meal in case you can't heat up
your meal.
When you are out there in the snow and see the bear and mountain lion tracks
you realize you are not alone. Would you do us a favor when you pass the
Wild Animal Sanctuary would you write down the mile marker. They also have a
telephone number on the fence for planned tours write that down also. We had a
discussion about the Sanctuary several weeks ago. I had no problen following
the trail
When I got down to the low desert it was so quite at night I missed the
winds of the mountains, but then the coyotes started their howling. There was
never a dull moment even hitch hiking to the Bus Station in Banning. The
Greyhound Bus Station is a story in its self.
Hey! have a nice trip.
Lonetrail
My son and I are going to be in Palm Springs, and we are looking at hiking
from San Gorgonio to Van Dusen Canyon Road--64 miles--begnning on the
afternoon of 11/15. The problem is we have only 5 days and I understand from
talking to National Park folk that there's already 2-3 feet of snow on most
of the distance. While my son is a fast hiker, I'm slow. Which sparks these
questions:
-- Is the 64 miles totally unrealistic, given the snow conditions?
-- How easy would it be to get to Route 38? How long is it likely to take?
Is that road passable? Is there sufficient traffic to viably hitchhike to
Big Bear?
--Is there any other road that comes close to the trail, by which we might
leave the trail and get to Big bear in an easy 5 days?
-- Are the conditions such that it'd be advisable to carry an ice ax? A GPS?
-- If this part of the PCT is not viable, given our time constraints, can
you suggest an alternative 30-40-mile hike from Big Bear north? How about
Big Bear to Hwy 173?
--Are there any N to S vs. S-N slants?
I would very much appreciate any suggestions regarding the above.
Peter "Powerful Tiger" Haskell