[pct-l] packs

[CMountainDave at aol.com (CMountainDave@xxxxxxx)]

In a message dated 12/22/03 10:13:17 AM, Steven.Setzer@Colorado.EDU writes:

<< I think my base pack weith will be around
15 pounds so with a full load of food and/or water I could expect my total
pack weight to be 25 pounds or more (I'm thinking of long waterless
stretches or long re-supplies).  So this is pushing the limits of a
frameless pack.  >>

I wouldn't say 25 pounds is pushing the limit of a frameless pack as long as 
it has a waist belt. 
 You are right about tossing that 8 pound pack. Do they still actually 
manufacture such heavy packs? I don't think you will find a consensus on what pack 
to use, just that it should be a lot lighter than 8 pounds. I have a Kelty 
something or other (the memory is going I guess) that is a cheaper version of the 
Cloud and am satisfied with it because as was said, it is very dismantable and 
I love the ditty bag pocket that can be used to put BIG bags of Lay's potato 
chips (okay, crumbs after a while, not chips -- they still taste as good) and 
half a dozen Krispy Kremes for that good old 9 calories per gram of fat energy 
when pushing up a 5000' hill
 I know people that have Ospreys and like them very much. They are good 
looking, too. The packs, not the people. Although Alyce IS kind of cute. Can't 
comment on the rest mentioned. Most people I backpack with are still stuck with 
their 7 pound Gregory packs. They marvel at my 19 pound base weight and scoff 
when I tell them my weight is actually considered to be on the heavy side by 
thru hike standards. They tend to view such people as irresponsible. I tell them 
that they are innovative, experienced people who have dared to break the mold. 
Hopefully they will someday read some of Jardines stuff to get a "different" 
perspective. I think I just thought of a last minute Christmas gift!