[pct-l] jmt in june

[scourtway@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Steve Courtway)]

there we go, 10 feet is much more believable, especially with pictures.

Just look at that consolidated walk in the park hahahahahahahah.

Steve


----- Original Message -----
From: "dude" <dude@fastmail.ca>
To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] jmt in june


> --
> here is a pic from that trip:
> http://www.dudedesign.com/photos/tyt/large/tomsnow.jpg
>
>
>
> > 20 ft. of snow on the trail maybe a little exaggeration
> > hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "dude" <dude@fastmail.ca>
> > To: <pct-l@mailman.backcountry.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] jmt in june
> >
> >
> >> --
> >> Nic - I am not really too certain what the snow levels are like
> >> this year in the high sierra, however, they were recently hit
> >> with a semi- late season storm that dumped tons of snow up there.
> >>  Late season large storms are not at all uncommon in the sierra
> >> nevada.  I have snow skied at Squaw Valley with 100% of the park
> >> open on July 4th (the PCT may even go through Squaw Valley, I
> >> forget).
> >>
> >> I am sure that a JMT hike is *possible* on June 9th, but it
> >> doesnt sound like fun to me.  My totally uneducated guess is that
> >> there will be TONS of snow all over the place on June 9th.  This
> >> snow report indicates that this is a fairly typical year:
> >> ftp://ftp.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/data/snow/update/ca.txt  most of the
> >> stations are reporting near 100% of normal.
> >>
> >> When you say "I assume the peaks have a bunch but is there a lot
> >> on the trail at lower elevations?", you have to understand that
> >> the majority of the JMT is around 10,000ft. Therefore, the "trail
> >> at lower elevations" is still about 9,000-10,000 ft.  In fact,
> >> besides yosemite valley, the trail only dips below 8,000 ft three
> >> times, and each of those is immediately followed by climbs over
> >> 11,000-12,000 passes.  Here is an elevation profile to help you
> >> get the picture: http://www.pcta.org/images/elevation_big.gif
> >>
> >> I have heard/read about people doing JMT hikes in june and seen
> >> pics with lots of snow all over the place, so if you are into
> >> that type of hiking in snow, where the trail and signs/markers
> >> are under 20+ feet of snow for miles on end, where the passes
> >> have so much snow that your "hike" is more like mountaineering,
> >> where the stream runoff is deep and fast, and the standing water
> >> in the meadows makes the mosquitoes as thick as the smog in L.A.,
> >> then I would say that you will have a great time.  However, if
> >> you are looking forward to a nice summer-time hike where the
> >> trail is easy to find, you won't need to know mountaineering
> >> skills, and you won't have to carry more deet than water, then
> >> you may want to reconsider the date (or is that date is set in
> >> stone, perhaps reconsider the destination).
> >>
> >> I am not trying to scare you off, but I am trying to paint a
> >> realistic picture of what it *could* be like on the JMT on June
> >> 9th. I did the JMT the last two weeks of august in 1998 (200% of
> >> normal snow), and there were still sections of the trail that
> >> were under 20 ft of snow.  We all had to use our ice axes too.
> >> We even got snowed on one night!
> >>
> >> In any event, good luck!
> >>
> >> peace,
> >> dude
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I was planning on leaving to hike the john muir trail around the
> >>> 9th of June and I was wondering about how much snow is usually
> >>> on the trail at this time. I assume the peaks have a bunch but
> >>> is there a lot on the trail at lower elevations? Does anyone
> >>> have any guesses on how this year's snow melt will differ from
> >>> other years and how passable the trail will be? Also would it
> >>> make much of a difference whether I hiked N-->S or S-->N in
> >>> encountering snow? Thanks a lot!
> >>>
> >>> Nic
> >>>
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