[pct-l] Re: First post/water cache questions

[wandering_bob@xxxxxxx (wandering_bob@xxxxxxx)]

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I just wrote a review for The Distance Hikers' Gazette (ALDHA-West) of a ne=
w software program by Ken Roberts that provides user-customizable topo maps=
 of the entire PCT. There are also GPS waypoint files, elevation plots, re-=
supply and transportation info and links, photos, and a host of trail info.=
 See http://www.MoreThanAMile.com     I recommend buying the 3 disc set so =
you get the GPS files AND the ability to print the topos. That's what I did=
: $40. It's also got over 1000 ful color photos, many of which are panorami=
c 360 degree scrollable shots. There's also a single disc version that has =
the entire trail but you can't print high resolution maps from it ($14).

Regarding section F (Mojave to Walker Pass); last summer when i went throug=
h there were three water caches. There were two at Kelso Valley Road and a =
third at Bird Spring Pass. Motolady (Mary Barcik) maintains the one at Kels=
o Pass plus the Bird spring Pass cache, and she's religious about servicing=
 them. Believe me, you'll need them!  Your water sources (north to south) a=
re: Mojave, Golden Spring, Robin Bird Spring, Kelso Valley Road caches, Bir=
d spring Pass cache, McIver's Spring and cabin, Walker Pass CG. Yellowjacke=
t Springs was only a seep accodring to Motolady's notes at each of her cach=
es and not worth the mileage and 800 foot elevation gain and loss.

Wandering Bob
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Subject: [pct-l] Re: First post/water cache questions

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Hi Jeff and Donna,
Thank you for the information.  Sorry you did not hear from me sooner.  Thi=
s looks to be quite the geographical research challenge.  I am looking at t=
he Tehachapi and Walker Pass area.  Does anyone have topo maps with the tra=
il on it?  I bought a guide book for day hikes on the PCT.  The least infor=
mative maps in the entire book are about that area.  Perhaps I'll have to b=
uy the guide books that the PCTA sells. But I understand a new edition is c=
oming out.  I looked on hikertrash.com and...same thing.  There are topo ma=
ps on the net but none with the trail easy to spot.  Is this the least popu=
lar area on the trail?  Reading journals, it seems that this area is a most=
ly unwelcome surprise for desert weary hikers.  Hikers who are expecting to=
 have left the desert behind etc.  So, I think you are right in suggesting =
this area.  This area is too far away to service on weekday evenings (that =
was what I was originally thinking).  For this area I could go up on a week=
end.  But that means a larger cache would be needed because I would hate fo=
r someone to go thirsty.  With a topo map that shows the trail, I could loo=
k for a part of the trail that may be closely accessed by a dirt road or 4X=
4 trail.  I am thinking that I could break up a waterless stretch by carryi=
ng a large amount of water a short distance from road to trail.  What do yo=
u think?  unfortunately the area looks to be under private control.  Know a=
nyone with access to the roads/jeep trails in this area?

Dave
p.s.:  There is a spring up near Wilderness camp in Horse Camp canyon that =
I did not see mentioned in the water report.  It ain't much but it is only =
about fifty yards from a very fine camp.
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  Water sources can go quickly dry in these parts, as you probably know.  W=
ater caches can be empty.  When it comes to water in these parts, MORE is d=
efinitely better!  However, you'll want to see where your efforts will make=
 the most sense.  The area right where you are (Three Points) generally has=
 water available.  The most difficult area comes after crossing the Mojave =
floor, climbing toward Walker Pass.  Of course, this is a harder area to ge=
t water to.

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