Thanks for the tip, Mags. I got mine this afternoon from Into The Wind. Good service. Also, Bibler said they're ready to ship their ultra light Eldorado tent (about 3 pounds) to us, but it has to go to a show-and-tell meeting first! I don't know the details. Wow, now I am ready! Beautiful weather here that makes me feel like I'm missing good hiking days. Gotta Walk Marcia & Ken