The 2002 ADZPCTKO is tentitively planned for Saturday, April 28th at Lake Moreno. Mark your calendars and hang on for further info. As to those that self-proclaim to be sane; I suggest deep skeptism. Their self-view is tainted with the rose color of insanity! I should know, "I know that I'm mad, I've always been mad" Greg "Strider" Hummel